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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Thanks Jim. Good to get a fresh set of eyes on this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Let me see if I can re-write this more clearly once we get additional comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Don<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ"> UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim DeLaHunt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 22 March 2018 9:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ua-discuss@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [UA-discuss] Wording of UASG position on Downgrading [was: Re: Draft Notes - UA at ICANN61 2018-03-22]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Hello, all:<span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p>Thank you for the notes from the UASG meeting at ICANN61 sent just now.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I have a question about the wording of the "UASG Position on Downgrading". I don't intend to dispute the substance of the position. I do have a hard time understanding the wording used.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>b. The sending system MAY substitute a pre-determined alias in ASCII when it ‘owns’ the mailbox and sending part of the email when it knows a transit will encounter a non-EAI ready email component.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I get lost after the first word "and". The rest of the sentence seems like two partial sentences spliced together.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>If I delete the first clause of the "and" condition, the 'owns' clause, and abbreviate the part about the sending system, it reads:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>The …system… MAY substitute… when… and sending part of the email when it knows a transit will encounter a non-EAI ready email component.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I don't understand how to interpret "sending part of the email" as a condition. I don't know how to pare the second use of "when".<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Did we mean,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>b. The sending system MAY substitute a pre-determined alias in ASCII when sending part of the email if a) it ‘owns’ the mailbox, b) it knows a transit will encounter a non-EAI ready email component.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Also, I don't know if "the mailbox" refers to the destination mailbox, or the sender mailbox. Also, I don't know what it means for a sender to "own" the mailbox. Does it mean, "sending system has reliable current information about an ASCII-only alternative
address for the destination mailbox"?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I'm sorry to get stuck on this. I imagine there was already effort put into this wording. Writing clearly and simply is hard!
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<p>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> —Jim DeLaHunt, Vancouver, Canada<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2018-03-21 13:26, Don Hollander wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please find attached draft notes and actions from the meetings in San Juan earlier this month.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Corrections would be welcome by the beginning of next week.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Don<o:p></o:p></p>
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