<div dir="ltr">+1 Paul.<div><br></div><div>I can understand the need to protect one's clients from incoming spam by blocking an entire TLD. I do get that.</div><div><br></div><div>However, i would like to point out that NO external report can conclude the exact percentage of abuse activity originating from within a TLD namespace.</div><div>
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<div class="m_516401301456693092moz-cite-prefix">On 4/30/2018 10:28 AM, Paul Stahura
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folks should not block entire TLDs, only subdomains</blockquote>
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Well, that assumes a public TLD, otherwise the distinction is
meaningless.<br>
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But there are TLDs with badness quotients of well over 50%. I'm all
in favor of blacklisting the whole TLD as an "incentive" to come
clean.<br>
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<a class="m_516401301456693092moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/tlds/" target="_blank">https://www.spamhaus.org/<wbr>statistics/tlds/</a><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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<div>which is what happens in all legacy TLDs. I doubt
any admin is blocking ALL of .com, .biz, .uk etc <br>
<div>my suggestion:<br>
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make sure you accept any TLD by default, but feel free
to blacklist any domain name that you consider harmful</i></div>
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<div>On Apr 30, 2018, at 9:54 AM, Mark
Svancarek via UA-discuss <<a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org" target="_blank">ua-discuss@icann.org</a>>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">This
seems reasonable, are there any objections?<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><i>we could advocate is: make sure you
accept any TLD (and any domain name) by default,
but feel free to blacklist those that you
consider harmful<u></u><u></u></i></div>
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<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">-----Original
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On Behalf Of Vittorio Bertola<br>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 01:21<br>
To: Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" target="_blank">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>>;
Roberto Gaetano <<a href="mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com" target="_blank">roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: Universal Acceptance <<a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org" target="_blank">ua-discuss@icann.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] UA and phishiness</div>
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Il 26 aprile 2018 alle 22.27 Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</span></a>>
ha scritto:<u></u><u></u></div>
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I guess I was wondering whether the SG wants to
say that b is fine but<u></u><u></u></div>
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c is a bad idea. It sounds like the SG _does_
think that, but I can't<u></u><u></u></div>
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find it on the site yet :-)<u></u><u></u></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I
think that system administrators should be aware
that many more TLDs than the best known ones
exist, including TLDs in non-ASCII characters, and
even more will be introduced, and should support
and accept all of them except if they think they
have reasons to blacklist specific TLDs due to
non-technical issues. So, what we could advocate
is: make sure you accept any TLD (and any domain
name) by default, but feel free to blacklist those
that you consider harmful.<u></u><u></u></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">This
would IMHO be an acceptable stance that does not
enter into thorny content-related issues (because
it does not tell anyone what to blacklist and
when) but still promotes universal acceptance.<u></u><u></u></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Regards,<u></u><u></u></div>
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