<div dir="ltr">+1 Paul.<div><br></div><div>I can understand the need to protect one's clients from incoming spam by blocking an entire TLD. I do get that.</div><div><br></div><div>However, i would like to point out that NO external report can conclude the exact percentage of abuse activity originating from within a TLD namespace.</div><div>

<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div></div><div>

<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Rather than blocking, I would encourage engagement with TLD operators to fix the problem. I beleive no operator applied for an nTLD to promote spam/abuse.</span><span> </span><br></div><br></div><div>Final thought, despite having a great registration to abuse ratio, .com is still on top of the most abused TLD list - <a href="http://www.surbl.org/tld">http://www.surbl.org/tld</a>. It has always been there.  <br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>

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</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 12:16 AM, Asmus Freytag <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:asmusf@ix.netcom.com" target="_blank">asmusf@ix.netcom.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div class="m_516401301456693092moz-cite-prefix">On 4/30/2018 10:28 AM, Paul Stahura
      wrote:<br>
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      folks should not block entire TLDs, only subdomains</blockquote>
    <br></span>
    Well, that assumes a public TLD, otherwise the distinction is
    meaningless.<br>
    <br>
    But there are TLDs with badness quotients of well over 50%. I'm all
    in favor of blacklisting the whole TLD as an "incentive" to come
    clean.<br>
    <br>
    <a class="m_516401301456693092moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/tlds/" target="_blank">https://www.spamhaus.org/<wbr>statistics/tlds/</a><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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    A./</font></span><span class=""><br>
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      <div>which is what happens in all legacy TLDs.  I doubt
        any admin is blocking ALL of .com, .biz, .uk etc <br>
        <div>my suggestion:<br>
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                  make sure you accept any TLD by default, but feel free
                  to blacklist any domain name that you consider harmful</i></div>
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                <div>On Apr 30, 2018, at 9:54 AM, Mark
                  Svancarek via UA-discuss <<a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org" target="_blank">ua-discuss@icann.org</a>>
                  wrote:</div>
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                    <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">This
                      seems reasonable, are there any objections?<u></u><u></u></div>
                    <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div>
                    <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><i>we could advocate is: make sure you
                        accept any TLD (and any domain name) by default,
                        but feel free to blacklist those that you
                        consider harmful<u></u><u></u></i></div>
                    <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div>
                    <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">-----Original
                      Message-----<br>
                      From: UA-discuss <<a href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a>>
                      On Behalf Of Vittorio Bertola<br>
                      Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 01:21<br>
                      To: Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" target="_blank">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>>;
                      Roberto Gaetano <<a href="mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com" target="_blank">roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com</a>><br>
                      Cc: Universal Acceptance <<a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org" target="_blank">ua-discuss@icann.org</a>><br>
                      Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] UA and phishiness</div>
                    <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div>
                    <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">>
                      Il 26 aprile 2018 alle 22.27 Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</span></a>>
                      ha scritto:<u></u><u></u></div>
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                    <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">><span class="m_516401301456693092Apple-converted-space"> </span><u></u><u></u></div>
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                      I guess I was wondering whether the SG wants to
                      say that b is fine but<u></u><u></u></div>
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                      c is a bad idea. It sounds like the SG _does_
                      think that, but I can't<u></u><u></u></div>
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                      find it on the site yet :-)<u></u><u></u></div>
                    <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div>
                    <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I
                      think that system administrators should be aware
                      that many more TLDs than the best known ones
                      exist, including TLDs in non-ASCII characters, and
                      even more will be introduced, and should support
                      and accept all of them except if they think they
                      have reasons to blacklist specific TLDs due to
                      non-technical issues. So, what we could advocate
                      is: make sure you accept any TLD (and any domain
                      name) by default, but feel free to blacklist those
                      that you consider harmful.<u></u><u></u></div>
                    <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">This
                      would IMHO be an acceptable stance that does not
                      enter into thorny content-related issues (because
                      it does not tell anyone what to blacklist and
                      when) but still promotes universal acceptance.<u></u><u></u></div>
                    <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Regards,<u></u><u></u></div>
                    <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">--<span class="m_516401301456693092Apple-converted-space"> </span><u></u><u></u></div>
                    <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div>
                    <div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Vittorio
                      Bertola | Head of Policy & Innovation,
                      Open-Xchange<span class="m_516401301456693092Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">vittorio.bertola@<wbr>open-xchange.com</span></a><span class="m_516401301456693092Apple-converted-space"> </span>Office @
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