<div dir="ltr">Hi <div><div>I think that mixing RTL and LTR scripts is not good idea, we will have multiple confusions : </div><div>How we read domain name or email address ? from the RTL or LTR ?</div><div>It is clear that for the arabic language, domain or email address are written and read as RTL,</div><div>In other hand, mixing arabic with punctuation and emojis will not produce confusions, domain name or email adresses still read and written as RTL.</div></div><div>Best regards</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-05-05 9:28 GMT+01:00 Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:agalila@mcit.gov.eg" target="_blank">agalila@mcit.gov.eg</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;border-right:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;padding-right:1ex">
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<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">Hi Andrew, Thanks for your below reply , I spend a lot of time try to do some mixing examples between RTL and LTR within the same label, what I got is strange and unclear<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">Label as a result for ex.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText"><span lang="AR-EG" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:عبدالمنعم-Abdo@سجل.مصر" target="_blank"><span dir="RTL">عبدالمنعم-</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Abdo</span><span dir="RTL"></span><span dir="RTL"><span dir="RTL"></span>@سجل.مصر</span></a><span dir="RTL"><u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">Abdo<span lang="AR-EG" dir="RTL" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">عبدالمنعم.مصر<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText"><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>… etc<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">Many issues you cannot imagine , also another thing using dot in RTL context or in LTR context will give you different labels although they must be the same.<u></u><u></u></p><span class="">
<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText"><span style="background:yellow">To be away from the display issues we get if we mix RTL and LTR code points
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<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText"><span style="background:yellow">in the same labels.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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</span><p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">Take a look here <span style="color:#1f497d"><a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5564" target="_blank">link</a>.</span><u></u><u></u></p><div><div class="h5">
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<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: UA-discuss [mailto:<a href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">ua-discuss-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan<br>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 2:57 PM<br>
To: John Levine <<a href="mailto:john.levine@standcore.com" target="_blank">john.levine@standcore.com</a>>; Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <<a href="mailto:agalila@mcit.gov.eg" target="_blank">agalila@mcit.gov.eg</a>><br>
Cc: Ahmed Bakhat Masood (<a href="mailto:ahmedbakhat@pta.gov.pk" target="_blank">ahmedbakhat@pta.gov.pk</a>) <<a href="mailto:ahmedbakhat@pta.gov.pk" target="_blank">ahmedbakhat@pta.gov.pk</a>>; <a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org" target="_blank">ua-discuss@icann.org</a>; Ahmed Bakhat (<a href="mailto:ahmedbakhat@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ahmedbakhat@yahoo.com</a>) <<a href="mailto:ahmedbakhat@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ahmedbakhat@yahoo.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Mixing between RTL and LTR scripts</p>
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<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">Also I don't know how you disallow script mixing for domain names. IDNA is label by label. The DNS is distributed, so there's no way to prevent mixing, is there?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">Please excuse my clumbsy thums<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">On May 4, 2018 05:36:02 "John Levine" <<a href="mailto:john.levine@standcore.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">john.levine@standcore.com</span></a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">>> I hope you all doing well, after back to TF-AIDN "Task Force Of Arabic
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<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">>> IDNs", I got the following regards to mixing LTR and RTL texts within the
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<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">>> same label.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">>> - Mixing between different scripts is not allowed for domain names
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<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">>> and email addresses<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">>> - Numbers at the middle or at the end of the RTL domain name is
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<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">>> allowed.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">>><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">>> To be away from the display issues we get if we mix RTL and LTR code points
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<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">>> in the same labels.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">> Thanks. I think this clarifies the point that we have no advice on<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">> displaying e-mail addresses, since mailboxes are not domain names and are<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">> not labels and are not subject to IDNA2008.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">> Regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">> John Levine, <a href="mailto:john.levine@standcore.com" target="_blank">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">john.levine@standcore.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_5711200964550646768MsoPlainText">> Standcore LLC<u></u><u></u></p>
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