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<div dir="auto">Hi,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In the same label, it's mostly a bad idea (there's some discussion of this in the bidi document). But my point was about domain names, not individual labels. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">A</div><div id="aqm-signature" style="color: black;"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-- </div><div dir="auto">Please excuse my clumbsy thums</div></div><div dir='auto'><br></div>
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<p style="color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; margin: 8pt 0;">On May 5, 2018 04:29:05 Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <agalila@mcit.gov.eg> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Hi Andrew, Thanks for your below reply , I spend a lot of time try to do some mixing examples between RTL and LTR within the same label, what I got is strange and unclear<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Label as a result for ex.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="AR-EG" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:عبدالمنعم-Abdo@سجل.مصر"><span dir="RTL">عبدالمنعم-</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Abdo</span><span dir="RTL"></span><span dir="RTL"><span dir="RTL"></span>@سجل.مصر</span></a><span dir="RTL"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Abdo<span lang="AR-EG" dir="RTL" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">عبدالمنعم.مصر<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span dir="LTR"></span><span dir="LTR"></span>… etc<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Many issues you cannot imagine , also another thing using dot in RTL context or in LTR context will give you different labels although they must be the same.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">To be away from the display issues we get if we mix RTL and LTR code points
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">in the same labels.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Take a look here <span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5564">link</a>.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: UA-discuss [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan<br>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 2:57 PM<br>
To: John Levine <john.levine@standcore.com>; Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <agalila@mcit.gov.eg><br>
Cc: Ahmed Bakhat Masood (ahmedbakhat@pta.gov.pk) <ahmedbakhat@pta.gov.pk>; ua-discuss@icann.org; Ahmed Bakhat (ahmedbakhat@yahoo.com) <ahmedbakhat@yahoo.com><br>
Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Mixing between RTL and LTR scripts</p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Also I don't know how you disallow script mixing for domain names. IDNA is label by label. The DNS is distributed, so there's no way to prevent mixing, is there?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">A<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">--<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Please excuse my clumbsy thums<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">On May 4, 2018 05:36:02 "John Levine" <<a href="mailto:john.levine@standcore.com"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">john.levine@standcore.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> I hope you all doing well, after back to TF-AIDN "Task Force Of Arabic
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>> IDNs", I got the following regards to mixing LTR and RTL texts within the
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>> same label.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> - Mixing between different scripts is not allowed for domain names
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>> and email addresses<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> - Numbers at the middle or at the end of the RTL domain name is
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>> allowed.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> To be away from the display issues we get if we mix RTL and LTR code points
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<p class="MsoPlainText">>> in the same labels.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Thanks. I think this clarifies the point that we have no advice on<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> displaying e-mail addresses, since mailboxes are not domain names and are<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> not labels and are not subject to IDNA2008.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> John Levine, <a href="mailto:john.levine@standcore.com">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">john.levine@standcore.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Standcore LLC<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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