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Time to revive a blog article which I wrote in March 2016😀 My blog article is about presentation of Arabic Email addresses ➜ <a href="http://schappo.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/arabic-email-addresses.html" class="">schappo.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/arabic-email-addresses.html</a> Using
this presentation method would make components of an email address or domain name clearer even when mixing LTR and RTL
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<div class="">On 5 May 2018, at 13:03, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <<a href="mailto:agalila@mcit.gov.eg" class="">agalila@mcit.gov.eg</a>> wrote:</div>
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how could any application process the domain name !! It will be RTL or LTR !!</span>
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Ex Abdo.عبدو.Ahmed </div>
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Where is the 1st label !!! Is it Abdo or Ahmed !!!<br class="">
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On May 5, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" class="">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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On May 5, 2018 04:29:05 Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <<a href="mailto:agalila@mcit.gov.eg" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">agalila@mcit.gov.eg</a>> wrote:</p>
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Hi Andrew, Thanks for your below reply , I spend a lot of time try to do some mixing examples between RTL and LTR within the same label, what I got is strange and unclear<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Label as a result for ex.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span lang="AR-EG" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%86%D8%B9%D9%85-Abdo@%D8%B3%D8%AC%D9%84.%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%B1" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span dir="RTL" class="">عبدالمنعم-</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Abdo</span><span dir="RTL" class=""></span><span dir="RTL" class=""><span dir="RTL" class=""></span>@سجل.مصر</span></a><span dir="RTL" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></span></div>
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Abdo<span lang="AR-EG" dir="RTL" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">عبدالمنعم.مصر<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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Many issues you cannot imagine , also another thing using dot in RTL context or in LTR context will give you different labels although they must be the same.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="background-color: yellow; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">To be away from the display issues we get if we mix RTL and LTR code points<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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Take a look here<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5564" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">link</a>.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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From: UA-discuss [<a href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan<br class="">
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To: John Levine <<a href="mailto:john.levine@standcore.com" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">john.levine@standcore.com</a>>; Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <<a href="mailto:agalila@mcit.gov.eg" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">agalila@mcit.gov.eg</a>><br class="">
Cc: Ahmed Bakhat Masood (<a href="mailto:ahmedbakhat@pta.gov.pk" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">ahmedbakhat@pta.gov.pk</a>) <<a href="mailto:ahmedbakhat@pta.gov.pk" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">ahmedbakhat@pta.gov.pk</a>>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">ua-discuss@icann.org</a>;
Ahmed Bakhat (<a href="mailto:ahmedbakhat@yahoo.com" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">ahmedbakhat@yahoo.com</a>) <<a href="mailto:ahmedbakhat@yahoo.com" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">ahmedbakhat@yahoo.com</a>><br class="">
Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Mixing between RTL and LTR scripts</div>
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Also I don't know how you disallow script mixing for domain names. IDNA is label by label. The DNS is distributed, so there's no way to prevent mixing, is there?<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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On May 4, 2018 05:36:02 "John Levine" <<a href="mailto:john.levine@standcore.com" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none;" class="">john.levine@standcore.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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>> I hope you all doing well, after back to TF-AIDN "Task Force Of Arabic<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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>> IDNs", I got the following regards to mixing LTR and RTL texts within the<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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>> - Mixing between different scripts is not allowed for domain names<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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