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Ah😀 Thank you for reminding me Raed
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<div class="">André<br class="">
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<div class="">On 9 May 2018, at 09:55, Raed AlFayez <<a href="mailto:rfayez@citc.gov.sa" class="">rfayez@citc.gov.sa</a>> wrote:</div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Dear Andre & All,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Please allow me to resend my comments on the blog article that was shared by Andre in his last email:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Dear Andre,</span><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">With great interest and appreciation, I have read your posts in the UA-discuss mailing list as well as your recent</span><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://schappo.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/arabic-email-addresses.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">blog
article</span></a><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">on how to handle
Arabic emails address in RTL and LTR context.</span><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Your suggestion sounds good at first glance. However, it is confusing and puzzling when you look at it from the point of view of an ordinary Arabic speaking user. Hence, I have the following
comments that I would like first to share with you before posting them to the mailing list. I will be using examples to illustrate my point of view. They are demonstrated from native Arabic speaking point view.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<span dir="LTR" class=""></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span dir="LTR" class=""></span>(Please note that I will be using pictures for the texts so that they will not be ruined when transferred by the email
system)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Consider my email address:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<u class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue;" class=""><a href="mailto:rfayez@citc.gov.sa" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rfayez@citc.gov.sa</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></u></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">As a (normal) user I can easily make out the following (correct) assumptions regardless of the text direction:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><span class="">1.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: "Times New Roman";" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span dir="LTR" class=""></span><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">The
user part is always to the left-side of the sign (@):<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><u class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: blue;" class="">rfayez</span></u><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><span class="">2.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: "Times New Roman";" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span dir="LTR" class=""></span><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">The
domain name is always to the right-side of the sign (@):<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><u class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: blue;" class="">citc.gov.sa</span></u><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><span class="">3.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: "Times New Roman";" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span dir="LTR" class=""></span><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">A
domain name is arranged in a well-defined label hierarchy where a TLD is always the rightmost label of the domain name:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><u class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: blue;" class="">.sa</span></u><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">So I will use my email address as is (</span><u class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue;" class=""><a href="mailto:rfayez@citc.gov.sa" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rfayez@citc.gov.sa</a></span></u><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""> without
changing its direction or swapping between its parts. Consider the following examples where my email address is used in different text writing directions:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">As you can see, regardless of the text direction (LTR or RTL) the email address maintain its form (i.e.,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:user@domain.TLD" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">user@domain.TLD</a>).
This allows the user easily construct and deconstruct email addresses correctly without confusing and mixing up its parts. For example, the following set of examples:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:care.sa@car.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">care.sa@car.com</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:car.com@care.sa" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">car.com@care.sa</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">will be straightforwardly interpreted as follows<span dir="RTL" class=""></span><span dir="RTL" class=""></span><span dir="RTL" class=""><span dir="RTL" class=""></span><span dir="RTL" class=""></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span dir="LTR" class=""></span><span dir="LTR" class=""></span><span dir="LTR" class=""></span><span dir="LTR" class=""></span>(no
confusion whatsoever):<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">Now let us repeat the examples using an Arabic email address:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">Here a native Arabic-speaking user would make the following assumptions as well regardless of the text direction:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><span class="">1.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: "Times New Roman";" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span dir="LTR" class=""></span><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">The
user part is always to the right-side of the sign (@):<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b class=""><span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">اندري</span></b><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><span class="">2.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: "Times New Roman";" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span dir="LTR" class=""></span><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">The
domain name is always to the left-side of the sign (@):<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b class=""><span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">رسيل.السعودية</span></b><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><span class="">3.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: "Times New Roman";" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span dir="LTR" class=""></span><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">A
domain name is arranged in a well-defined label hierarchy where an Arabic TLD is always the leftmost label of the domain name:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span dir="RTL" class=""></span><span dir="RTL" class=""></span><b class=""><span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span dir="RTL" class=""></span><span dir="RTL" class=""></span>.السعودية</span></b><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">Therefore, the given Arabic email address:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">should be used without changing its direction or swapping between its parts to maintain its form and hence remove any confusion or misinterpretation.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">Consider the following examples where the previous email address<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">is used in different text writing directions:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">As you can see, regardless of the text direction (LTR or RTL) the email address maintain its form.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">This allows the user easily construct and deconstruct email addresses correctly without confusing and mixing up its parts. For example, the following set of examples:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<b class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></b></div>
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<b class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></b></div>
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<span id="cid:image006.jpg@01D3E78C.AED775B0"><image006.jpg></span><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">will be straightforwardly interpreted as follows<span dir="RTL" class=""></span><span dir="RTL" class=""></span><span dir="RTL" class=""><span dir="RTL" class=""></span><span dir="RTL" class=""></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span dir="LTR" class=""></span><span dir="LTR" class=""></span><span dir="LTR" class=""></span><span dir="LTR" class=""></span>(no
confusion whatsoever):<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<span id="cid:image007.jpg@01D3E78C.AED775B0"><image007.jpg></span><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">However, if your suggestion is followed then the above email addresses will be used as follows depending in the text direction:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<span id="cid:image008.jpg@01D3E78C.AED775B0"><image008.jpg></span><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">and frankly this is absolutely confusing.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">As an Arabic speaker we were dealing with LTR and RTL together long time ago (far before Computers where invented) because our Arabic alphabetic is RTL while
the Arabic numbers are LTR.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">So if I want to write the following sentience in Arabic "</span><i class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">My salary
is<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i><i class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 176, 80);" class="">321<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i><i class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Pound</span></i><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">"
I will write it like this:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center;" class="">
<span id="cid:image009.jpg@01D3E78C.AED775B0"><image009.jpg></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Or<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center;" class="">
<span id="cid:image010.jpg@01D3E78C.AED775B0"><image010.jpg></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">And<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: red;" class="">not</span></b><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: red;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">like
this:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center;" class="">
<span id="cid:image011.jpg@01D3E78C.AED775B0"><image011.jpg></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Nor<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center;" class="">
<span id="cid:image012.jpg@01D3E78C.AED775B0"><image012.jpg></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Since to any Arabic user the last two images means "</span><i class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">My salary is<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i><i class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: red;" class="">123<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i><i class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Pound</span></i><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">"!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Later, when computer was introduced in our region (1980s) we used to write English names within the Arabic text without chaining their direction. In other words,
if I want to write the following sentence in Arabic (without Arabizing the English names) "</span><i class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">We welcome the interest of Mr.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i><i class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 176, 80);" class="">André
Schappo<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i><i class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">in the Arabic language</span></i><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">"
then I will write it like this:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center;" class="">
<span id="cid:image013.jpg@01D3E78C.AED775B0"><image013.jpg></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<b class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: red;" class="">not</span></b><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: red;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">like
this:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center;" class="">
<span id="cid:image014.jpg@01D3E78C.AED775B0"><image014.jpg></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">And<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(192, 0, 0);" class="">definitely</span></b><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(192, 0, 0);" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">not</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">like
this:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-align: center;" class="">
<span id="cid:image015.jpg@01D3E78C.AED775B0"><image015.jpg></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Moreover, when the internet was introduced (1990s) we used to write domains and email addresses in a similar manner and as what I have explained to you in my
previous email.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I hope that I have clarified the view of an Arabic speaker regarding your thoughts on how to handle RTL in LTR context and vice versa.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">BTW the following represent a sample of tons of examples form famous Newspapers inside the Arabic world:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-indent: 36pt;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-indent: 36pt;" class="">
<a href="http://www.alriyadh.com/975687" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">http://www.alriyadh.com/975687</span></a><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-indent: 36pt;" class="">
<span id="cid:image016.jpg@01D3E78C.AED775B0"><image016.jpg></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; text-indent: 36pt;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://www.albayan.ae/economy/last-deal/2011-12-09-1.1551679" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">http://www.albayan.ae/economy/last-deal/2011-12-09-1.1551679</span></a><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span id="cid:image017.jpg@01D3E78C.AED775B0"><image017.jpg></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://aitmag.ahram.org.eg/News/38238.aspx" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">http://aitmag.ahram.org.eg/News/38238.aspx</span></a><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">
<span id="cid:image018.jpg@01D3E78C.AED775B0"><image018.jpg></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 12pt 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">
<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 12pt 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;">
<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">With best regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">Raed<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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<a name="_MailEndCompose" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></a></div>
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<b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>UA-discuss [<a href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On
Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Andre Schappo<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, May 08, 2018 6:49 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">ua-discuss@icann.org</a><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [UA-discuss] Mixing between RTL and LTR scripts<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
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Time to revive a blog article which I wrote in March 2016😀 My blog article is about presentation of Arabic Email addresses<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-family: "MS Mincho";" class="">➜</span> <a href="http://schappo.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/arabic-email-addresses.html" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">schappo.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/arabic-email-addresses.html</a> Using
this presentation method would make components of an email address or domain name clearer even when mixing LTR and RTL<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
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André Schappo<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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On 5 May 2018, at 13:03, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <<a href="mailto:agalila@mcit.gov.eg" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">agalila@mcit.gov.eg</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">
<o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: ArialUnicodeMS, serif;" class="">So how could any application process the domain name !! It will be RTL or LTR !!</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: ArialUnicodeMS, serif;" class="">Ex Abdo.</span><span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-size: 10.5pt;" class="">عبدو</span><span dir="LTR" class=""></span><span dir="LTR" class=""></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: ArialUnicodeMS, serif;" class=""><span dir="LTR" class=""></span><span dir="LTR" class=""></span>.Ahmed <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: ArialUnicodeMS, serif;" class="">Where is the 1st label !!! Is it Abdo or Ahmed !!!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: ArialUnicodeMS, serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: ArialUnicodeMS, serif;" class="">Consider if the domain name starts with RTL text !! Or RTL in the middle !!! Or at the end !!!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: ArialUnicodeMS, serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: ArialUnicodeMS, serif;" class="">Sent from my iPhone<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: ArialUnicodeMS, serif;" class=""><br class="">
On May 5, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: ArialUnicodeMS, serif;" class="">Hi,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: ArialUnicodeMS, serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: ArialUnicodeMS, serif;" class="">In the same label, it's mostly a bad idea (there's some discussion of this in the bidi document). But my point was about domain names, not individual labels. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: ArialUnicodeMS, serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: ArialUnicodeMS, serif;" class="">A<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">On May 5, 2018 04:29:05 Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <<a href="mailto:agalila@mcit.gov.eg" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">agalila@mcit.gov.eg</span></a>>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hi Andrew, Thanks for your below reply , I spend a lot of time try to do some mixing examples between RTL and LTR within the same label, what I got is strange and unclear<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Many issues you cannot imagine , also another thing using dot in RTL context or in LTR context will give you different labels although they must be the same.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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From: UA-discuss [<a href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</span></a>] On Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan<br class="">
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To: John Levine <<a href="mailto:john.levine@standcore.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">john.levine@standcore.com</span></a>>; Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <<a href="mailto:agalila@mcit.gov.eg" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">agalila@mcit.gov.eg</span></a>><br class="">
Cc: Ahmed Bakhat Masood (<a href="mailto:ahmedbakhat@pta.gov.pk" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">ahmedbakhat@pta.gov.pk</span></a>) <<a href="mailto:ahmedbakhat@pta.gov.pk" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">ahmedbakhat@pta.gov.pk</span></a>>;<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">ua-discuss@icann.org</span></a>;
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