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<div class="">On 25 Jan 2019, at 07:18, Asmus Freytag (c) <<a href="mailto:asmusf@ix.netcom.com" class="">asmusf@ix.netcom.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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On 1/24/2019 10:55 PM, Don Hollander wrote:<br class="">
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And the filename to be<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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For Unicode, the main link for technical reports even drops the file extension (usually html for TRs), so in your example:<br class="">
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<span class="MsoHyperlink" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><a href="https://uasg.tech/documents/UASG000-Inventory-of-Material%20EN.pdf" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://uasg.tech/documents/UASG000-Inventory-of-Material
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if that can be realized.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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(Unicode, the way they do it, piggybacks on the "index.html" technique which would not be apropos here, so if the extension has to be retained it's not that critical).</p>
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<div>Why not have the filenames in the language of the document thus giving a link such as:
<a href="http://uasg.tech/documents/UASG000-инвентарь-материала" class="">uasg.tech/documents/UASG000-инвентарь-материала</a> or uasg.tech/documents/UASG000-инвентарь-материала-2019-01-25</div>
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<div>I have purposely dropped the language tag ru as a person who understands Russian would understand the filename in the link. This is inline with the common practice on websites for the language names to be written in that language and script eg wikipedia
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<div>I know it adds complications but I consider it much more in the spirit of internationalisation.</div>
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<b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>UA-discuss<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, 25 January 2019 7:30 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Don Hollander<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:don.hollander@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><don.hollander@icann.org></a>;
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [UA-discuss] Proposal: Handling Numbering of the UASG Documents<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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I would expect to be able to leave the date off the link and get the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class=""><i class="">latest<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></i></b>file version. Depending on technology that gets implemented with
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I would expect each document to carry such a generic link to the "latest" version in a header or a note somehwere, so that no matter what copy of the document you are accessing (based some reference somewhere) you are always able to discover the existence of
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I would expect the revision notes to have a link for each date, so one can backtrack versions without going through the archive.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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On 1/24/2019 9:45 PM, Don Hollander wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Document Number (e.g. UASG000) – this will be maintained as a consistent reference name for a document. NB: No hyphen in the document number.<o:p class=""></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
Document Short Title (e.g. UASG000 Inventory of Material) – this will be included in the file name.<o:p class=""></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
Document Language (e.g. UASG000 Inventory of Material EN) – this will be included in the file name.<o:p class=""></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
Document Revision – (e.g. UASG000 Inventory of Material EN 2019-01-25) This will be based on the publication date and represented in the file name as yyyy-mm-dd. It will also be included within the document.<o:p class=""></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
Document Link – (e.g.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="MsoHyperlink" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><a href="https://uasg.tech/documents/UASG-000-Inventory-of-Material%20EN%202019%2001%2025.pdf" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://uasg.tech/documents/UASG000-Inventory-of-Material
EN 2019 01 25.pdf</a></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>) This will be based on the language of the document and is what’s published on the UASG.Tech website and will retrieve the latest official version of the document. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
Archives: The<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://uasg.tech/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">UASG.tech</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>website will include a repository of deprecated versions
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Revision Details: For most documents we will maintain a table at the end showing a summary of revisions. Where a document is used a brochure, this will not be done.<o:p class=""></o:p></li></ul>
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<b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>UA-discuss<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, 25 January 2019 1:23 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'Asmus Freytag'<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:asmusf@ix.netcom.com" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><asmusf@ix.netcom.com></a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">ua-discuss@icann.org</a><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [UA-discuss] Proposal: Handling Numbering of the UASG Documents</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class="">Thanks for the clarification Asmus. I agree with you, brochures shouldn’t have revision histories.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class="">I had noticed the one place where Jim used the word “reservation” and thought your second sentence was independent from the first, and commenting on that-</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>UA-discuss [<a href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [UA-discuss] Proposal: Handling Numbering of the UASG Documents</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" class="">On 1/24/2019 2:55 PM, Tex wrote:</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<span lang="EN-US" class="">PS: Brochures, by their nature are different from the kind of reports and formal documents that need careful version tracking in the document. I disagree with Jim on his reservation.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<p class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: Candara, sans-serif;" class="">This was about whether revisions are documented inside the document. Don, suggested not, and I would agree. I think of brochures as a type of document, not a technology, but may
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