<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hello All, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For many years registration data have been in English ( yes, sometimes poorly transliterated, but still),</div><div class="">so I do not think that RDAP implementations of Registries and Registrars will suffer from UA issues, but only due to the </div><div class="">ASCII (here I meant the set of characters allowed in RA and RAA 2013 contracts) </div><div class="">nature of the data in the platforms (real contractual data of a Registrar is not equal to the restoration data, for many reasons).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I do not speak about short implementation time (platforms are already live and punishments for not following SLAs are severe for Registries).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">One of the biggest issues is RSEP procedures for Registries (the moment a Registry tries to use non ASCII there - rises Compliance issues ).</div><div class="">And - even if a Registry implements non ASCII output of it's </div><div class="">RDAP - Registrars have to be big enough to spend time and money on something , which is optional for them.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: normal; border-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Sincerely Yours,<br class=""><br class="">Maxim Alzoba<br class="">Special projects manager,<br class="">International Relations Department,<br class="">FAITID<br class=""><br class="">m. +7 916 6761580<span style="text-align: -webkit-auto;" class="">(+whatsapp)</span></div><div class="">skype oldfrogger</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Current UTC offset: +3.00 (.Moscow)</div></div></span></div></div></div></div></div>
</div>
<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 7 Mar 2019, at 12:11, Ram Mohan <<a href="mailto:rmohan@afilias.info" class="">rmohan@afilias.info</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Andrew<div dir="auto" class="">So long as the repository is at least UTF-8 capable, then there shouldn't be a problem with storing these elements.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I wonder, however, if Jothan is speaking about using validation checks (what's a valid tld, email, etc.) after receiving the data. Done hastily, that could cause UA issues, although it's got nothing to do with RDAP.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Although, I don't see why a data storer does not just take what's given by the source and store with high fidelity.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Ram</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 7, 2019, 3:01 PM Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" class="">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 09:17:32AM +0900, Jothan Frakes wrote:<br class="">
> Yes it is designed into the protocol and in a perfect world that would mean<br class="">
> yes ir is covered.<br class="">
<br class="">
That is certainly not what I was suggesting.<br class="">
<br class="">
> We should realize that there is a fast cycle on things being put in place<br class="">
> and deployed.<br class="">
<br class="">
Fast? I'm sorry, but we designed this protocol _years and years_ ago.<br class="">
ICANN did nothing.<br class="">
<br class="">
> Notwithstanding what Andrew said about it being potentially included, I<br class="">
> think assuming RDAP will fix storage of Unicode for UA may not be correct<br class="">
> unless explicitly stated by a given implementation.<br class="">
<br class="">
I think the above betrays a misunderstanding of the<br class="">
internationalization support in the wire format. See section 9 of RFC<br class="">
7480 and section 12.1 of RFC 7483. Regardless of how you store things<br class="">
in the back end, you need to be able to use UTF-8 on the wire. If the<br class="">
point is that maybe your back end can't store everything expressible<br class="">
by UTF-8, then it turns out your repository can't actually store all<br class="">
the stuff you have registered.<br class="">
<br class="">
If on the other hand the problem is that you're storing something from<br class="">
someone _else's_ repository, why are you doing that? Store a referral.<br class="">
<br class="">
A<br class="">
-- <br class="">
Andrew Sullivan<br class="">
<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a><br class="">
</blockquote></div>
</div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>