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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/11/2019 11:56 AM, Larry Masinter
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<p class="MsoNormal">using <span style="font-family:"Segoe
UI Emoji",sans-serif">❤</span>@data.in isn’t much
different than using <a href="mailto:UA-discuss@lCANN.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">UA-discuss@lCANN.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It works with copy-paste but is unlikely
(with today’s fonts and systems) to be transcribed correctly
by a live humans.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(Note that that was <a
href="mailto:ua-discuss@Lcann.org" moz-do-not-send="true">ua-discuss@Lcann.org</a>
above, with a lower-case i.)</p>
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<p>The issues with emoji are much worse. All faces/body parts can
have skin-tone variations that you will be hard pressed to
reliably tell apart unless seen side-by-side. And you have no
guarantee that such modifiers are handled reliably on all
platforms. <br>
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<p>The transcription is not the issue, recognition is. (And ICANN
should have registered the LCANN domain name defensively :) )<br>
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<p>A./<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Larry<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://LarryMasinter.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://LarryMasinter.net</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> UA-discuss
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org"><ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tan
Tanaka, Dennis via UA-discuss<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 11, 2019 6:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ajay@data.in">ajay@data.in</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lars.steffen@eco.de">lars.steffen@eco.de</a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org">ua-discuss@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [UA-discuss] interesting to note
about emoji in mailbox name.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As I understand it, email administrators
have freedom to set up their own policies as to mailbox
names, filters, etc. Even if an email address is
syntactically correct, it doesn’t mean it cannot be rejected
by system policy. If a particular service is rejecting email
addresses just because they are using letters of other
alphabets that might be a problem UASG would want to take
part of. In the case of symbols (e.g. emojis) used in the
mailbox name, what would be UASG angle here?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Dennis<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">UA-discuss <<a
href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a>>
on behalf of Dr Ajay Data <<a
href="mailto:ajay@data.in" moz-do-not-send="true">ajay@data.in</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 8:58 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Lars Steffen <<a
href="mailto:lars.steffen@eco.de"
moz-do-not-send="true">lars.steffen@eco.de</a>>, "<a
href="mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">UA-discuss@icann.org</a>" <<a
href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">ua-discuss@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [UA-discuss] interesting
to note about emoji in mailbox name.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Emoji in Email
address example is neither part of IDN nor DNS. Here it is
part of mailbox name. <br>
<br>
My idea of sharing is that Google and office365 receives
email successfully from email address where mailbox
contains emoji, outlook deals it just like normal email
and gmail shows it dangerous. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><strong><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dr.
Ajay Data</span></strong><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Founder &
CEO</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"><strong><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></strong>
Lars Steffen <<a href="mailto:lars.steffen@eco.de"
moz-do-not-send="true">lars.steffen@eco.de</a>> MailId
: [90320017]<br>
<strong><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">To:</span></strong>
Dr Ajay Data <<a href="mailto:ajay@data.in"
moz-do-not-send="true">ajay@data.in</a>>,universal
access <<a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">ua-discuss@icann.org</a>><br>
<strong><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Subject:
</span></strong>Re: [UA-discuss] interesting to note about
emoji in mailbox name.<br>
<strong><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Date:</span></strong>
11 Apr 2019 05:19:02 PM <o:p></o:p></p>
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I quote from the 2 March 2018:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in">..what
we agreed to is that emojis are not part of the current
standard for IDN/DNS. As such it is out of scope for UASG.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in">Lars<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><strong><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Von:
</span></strong>UA-discuss <<a
href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a>>
im Auftrag von Dr Ajay Data <<a
href="mailto:ajay@data.in" moz-do-not-send="true">ajay@data.in</a>><br>
<strong><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Datum:
</span></strong>Donnerstag, 11. April 2019 um 09:10<br>
<strong><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">An:
</span></strong>universal access <<a
href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">ua-discuss@icann.org</a>><br>
<strong><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Betreff:
</span></strong>[UA-discuss] interesting to note about
emoji in mailbox name.<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in">Some
Interesting things to note:<br>
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I am testing with Two working Valid Email Address with
heart shape.<br>
<span style="font-family:"Segoe UI
Emoji",sans-serif">❤</span>@data.in and <span
style="font-family:"Segoe UI
Emoji",sans-serif">♥</span>@data.in <br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Segoe UI
Emoji",sans-serif">❤</span> - xn--qei and <span
style="font-family:"Segoe UI
Emoji",sans-serif">♥</span> - xn--g6h )<br>
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When I receive email from the above ID`s, In mobile
devices these above hearts are shown in different red
shades. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in">However
If I send email to Gmail / Outlook, they consider this
as Spam. Not only spam, Gmail displays the following
warning. - <o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"><strong><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This
message seems dangerous</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in">The
sender’s email address uses abnormal characters, which
might be used to spoof real addresses. Avoid clicking
links, downloading attachments, or replying to this
message.<br>
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Probably, we need to discuss this too and have our
views around it. <o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><strong><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dr.
Ajay Data</span></strong><b><br>
</b>Founder & CEO<o:p></o:p></p>
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[XGENFOOTER]<br>
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[-XGENFOOTER]<o:p></o:p></p>
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Do not Remove:<br>
[HID]20190411124031186[-HID]<o:p></o:p></p>
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