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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/11/2019 11:56 AM, Larry Masinter
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">using <span style="font-family:"Segoe
            UI Emoji",sans-serif">❤</span>@data.in  isn’t much
          different than using <a href="mailto:UA-discuss@lCANN.org"
            moz-do-not-send="true">UA-discuss@lCANN.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">It works with copy-paste but is unlikely
          (with today’s fonts and systems) to be transcribed correctly
          by a live humans.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">(Note that that was <a
            href="mailto:ua-discuss@Lcann.org" moz-do-not-send="true">ua-discuss@Lcann.org</a>
          above, with a lower-case i.)</p>
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    <p>The issues with emoji are much worse. All faces/body parts can
      have skin-tone variations that you will be hard pressed to
      reliably tell apart unless seen side-by-side. And you have no
      guarantee that such modifiers are handled reliably on all
      platforms. <br>
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    <p>The transcription is not the issue, recognition is. (And ICANN
      should have registered the LCANN domain name defensively :) )<br>
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    <p>A./<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Larry<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">--<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://LarryMasinter.net"
            moz-do-not-send="true">https://LarryMasinter.net</a><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> UA-discuss
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org"><ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tan
                Tanaka, Dennis via UA-discuss<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 11, 2019 6:28 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ajay@data.in">ajay@data.in</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lars.steffen@eco.de">lars.steffen@eco.de</a>;
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org">ua-discuss@icann.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [UA-discuss] interesting to note
                about emoji in mailbox name.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">As I understand it, email administrators
            have freedom to set up their own policies as to mailbox
            names, filters, etc. Even if an email address is
            syntactically correct, it doesn’t mean it cannot be rejected
            by system policy. If a particular service is rejecting email
            addresses just because they are using letters of other
            alphabets that might be a problem UASG would want to take
            part of. In the case of symbols (e.g. emojis) used in the
            mailbox name, what would be UASG angle here?<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">-Dennis<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span
                style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">UA-discuss <<a
                  href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a>>
                on behalf of Dr Ajay Data <<a
                  href="mailto:ajay@data.in" moz-do-not-send="true">ajay@data.in</a>><br>
                <b>Date: </b>Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 8:58 AM<br>
                <b>To: </b>Lars Steffen <<a
                  href="mailto:lars.steffen@eco.de"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">lars.steffen@eco.de</a>>, "<a
                  href="mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">UA-discuss@icann.org</a>" <<a
                  href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">ua-discuss@icann.org</a>><br>
                <b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [UA-discuss] interesting
                to note about emoji in mailbox name.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Emoji in Email
              address example is neither part of IDN nor DNS. Here it is
              part of mailbox name. <br>
              <br>
              My idea of sharing is that Google and office365 receives
              email successfully from email address where mailbox
              contains emoji, outlook deals it just like normal email
              and gmail shows it dangerous. <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><strong><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dr.
                  Ajay Data</span></strong><b><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
                </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Founder &
                CEO</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"><strong><span
                style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></strong>
            Lars Steffen <<a href="mailto:lars.steffen@eco.de"
              moz-do-not-send="true">lars.steffen@eco.de</a>>  MailId
            : [90320017]<br>
            <strong><span
                style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">To:</span></strong>
            Dr Ajay Data <<a href="mailto:ajay@data.in"
              moz-do-not-send="true">ajay@data.in</a>>,universal
            access <<a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org"
              moz-do-not-send="true">ua-discuss@icann.org</a>><br>
            <strong><span
                style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Subject:
              </span></strong>Re: [UA-discuss] interesting to note about
            emoji in mailbox name.<br>
            <strong><span
                style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Date:</span></strong>
            11 Apr 2019 05:19:02 PM <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in">May
              I quote from the 2 March 2018:<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in">..what
              we agreed to is that emojis are not part of the current
              standard for IDN/DNS. As such it is out of scope for UASG.<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in">Lars<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><strong><span
                    style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Von:
                  </span></strong>UA-discuss <<a
                  href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a>>
                im Auftrag von Dr Ajay Data <<a
                  href="mailto:ajay@data.in" moz-do-not-send="true">ajay@data.in</a>><br>
                <strong><span
                    style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Datum:
                  </span></strong>Donnerstag, 11. April 2019 um 09:10<br>
                <strong><span
                    style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">An:
                  </span></strong>universal access <<a
                  href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">ua-discuss@icann.org</a>><br>
                <strong><span
                    style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Betreff:
                  </span></strong>[UA-discuss] interesting to note about
                emoji in mailbox name.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in">Some
                  Interesting things to note:<br>
                  <br>
                  I am testing with Two working Valid Email Address with
                  heart shape.<br>
                  <span style="font-family:"Segoe UI
                    Emoji",sans-serif">❤</span>@data.in and <span
                    style="font-family:"Segoe UI
                    Emoji",sans-serif">♥</span>@data.in <br>
                   <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in">(
                <span style="font-family:"Segoe UI
                  Emoji",sans-serif">❤</span> - xn--qei    and    <span
                  style="font-family:"Segoe UI
                  Emoji",sans-serif">♥</span> - xn--g6h )<br>
                <br>
                When I receive email from the above ID`s, In mobile
                devices these above hearts are shown in different red
                shades. <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"
                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in">However
                If I send email to Gmail / Outlook, they consider this
                as  Spam.  Not only spam, Gmail displays the following
                warning. - <o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"><strong><span
                      style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This
                      message seems dangerous</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in">The
                  sender’s email address uses abnormal characters, which
                  might be used to spoof real addresses. Avoid clicking
                  links, downloading attachments, or replying to this
                  message.<br>
                  <br>
                  Probably, we need to discuss this too and have our
                  views around it. <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><strong><span
                    style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dr.
                    Ajay Data</span></strong><b><br>
                </b>Founder & CEO<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><br>
                [XGENFOOTER]<br>
                <br>
                [-XGENFOOTER]<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><br>
                Do not Remove:<br>
                [HID]20190411124031186[-HID]<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in"><img
                style="width:.3333in;height:.3333in" id="_x0000_i1026"
                src="cid:~WRD219.jpg" alt="Das Bild wurde vom Absender
                entfernt." moz-do-not-send="true" width="32" height="32"
                border="0"><img style="width:.3333in;height:.3333in"
                id="_x0000_i1027" src="cid:~WRD219.jpg" alt="Das Bild
                wurde vom Absender entfernt." moz-do-not-send="true"
                width="32" height="32" border="0"><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
              style="border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><img
                style="width:.3333in;height:.3333in" id="_x0000_i1028"
                src="cid:~WRD000.jpg" alt="Image removed by sender."
                moz-do-not-send="true" width="32" height="32" border="0"><img
                style="width:.3333in;height:.3333in" id="_x0000_i1029"
                src="cid:~WRD000.jpg" alt="Image removed by sender."
                moz-do-not-send="true" width="32" height="32" border="0"></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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