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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Andre<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Can you provide an example of what one such would look like?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Don<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andre Schappo<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 16 April 2019 8:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> Asmus Freytag (c) <asmusf@ix.netcom.com><br><b>Cc:</b> John Levine <john.levine@standcore.com>; ua-discuss@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [UA-discuss] interesting to note about emoji in mailbox name.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 15 Apr 2019, at 17:54, Asmus Freytag (c) <<a href="mailto:asmusf@ix.netcom.com">asmusf@ix.netcom.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 4/15/2019 9:46 AM, John Levine wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>In article <a href="mailto:09cbecda-324d-eb4d-bd45-fb4e64c71a72@ix.netcom.com"><09cbecda-324d-eb4d-bd45-fb4e64c71a72@ix.netcom.com></a> you write:<o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>That's the real danger of understanding UA as "blind acceptance" vs. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>universal support for well-behaved (if non-native) identifiers. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>"Well-behaved" almost has to become more narrowly defined than the <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>"anything goes" or "any PVALID goes" from E-mail or domain name standards.<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre>Quite right. I wish I know where the bad idea came from that you're<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>supposed to accept every technically valid but illegible and<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>misleading IDN or e-mail address. It's never been true with ASCII<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>addresses and it's even less true with IDNs and UTF-8 mailboxes.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Candara",sans-serif'>How do we make sure that UA doesn't become synonymous with "uncritical acceptance"?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Candara",sans-serif'>A./</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal>I really like your phrase "Uncritical Acceptance". <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In a previous email you wrote: "Those issues may require a discussion whether "Universal Acceptance" and "Uncritical Acceptance" are the same thing". (Note - I Title cased for better effect)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Seeing the two together in a sentence is extremely effective and to me effectively summarises the issues.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I consider defining good mailbox naming practices for the whole of Unicode would be a huge undertaking and there would be many overlaps and possibly contradictions with other standards.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>So, instead, what of defining good mailbox naming practice for just one of the orthography categories? This could serve to illustrate both good practice (Universal Acceptance) and bad practice (Uncritical Acceptance).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>André Schappo<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>