<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>Mark,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Since we were talking about Latin script, my opinion is that there are no variants except for <font face="Calibri, sans-serif" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;" class="">ß/ss. In some cases it's just something written wrong (like </span><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14.666666984558105px;" class="">pao instead of pão, which means bread in Portuguese) in order to accommodate ASCII-only systems or traditions, and in some cases two different words like pé (foot) and pê (letter P). </span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14.666666984558105px;" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14.666666984558105px;" class="">So, what it really happens is visual similarity, and to the extent possible, policies preventing that are welcome but not mandatory, and when they exist, they might exist in a variety of scopes. For instance, in .br there is such a policy prevent both accent versions and hyphens. </span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14.666666984558105px;" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14.666666984558105px;" class="">What I don't see a need, different from ICANN IDN Framework for gTLDs, is to control the whole lifecycle of the domain. Preventing domain creating is all that is needed IMHO. </span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14.666666984558105px;" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14.666666984558105px;" class="">There is currently an scoping effort in both GNSO and ccNSO, and those efforts might trigger PDPs in both SOs to deal with the subject. Stay tuned... </span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14.666666984558105px;" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14.666666984558105px;" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14.666666984558105px;" class="">Rubens</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14.666666984558105px;" class=""><br class=""></span></font><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 25 Nov 2019, at 05:05, Mark Svancarek (CELA) <<a href="mailto:marksv@microsoft.com" class="">marksv@microsoft.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Rubens, what is your opinion regarding variants policy? Should registrants be obliged to register all variants at the 2<sup class="">nd</sup><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>level to avoid confusion?<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>UA-discuss <<a href="mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org" class="">ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Mark W. Datysgeld<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday, November 24, 2019 1:13 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org" class="">ua-discuss@icann.org</a>; Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br" class="">rubensk@nic.br</a>>; ua-discuss <<a href="mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org" class="">ua-discuss@icann.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[EXTERNAL] Re: [UA-discuss] Ideas for engagement with stakeholders in Germany<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I see Rubens might have a vested interest in this one. :D<br class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Mark W. Datysgeld from Governance Primer [<a href="http://www.markwd.website" class="">www.markwd.website</a>]<br class="">In partnership with AR-TARC and the Brazilian Association of Software Companies (ABES)<o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On November 24, 2019 5:19:51 AM GMT+01:00, Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rubensk@nic.br</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On 24 Nov 2019, at 00:22, Mark W. Datysgeld <<a href="mailto:mark@governanceprimer.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mark@governanceprimer.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hello everyone,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I exchanged a few messages with Lars earlier this year, and would like to present below some points he raised that should be useful both for the IGF next week and looking towards ICANN meeting C next year, being tailored towards German stakeholders. In my view, we can aim to always try gathering such regional insights moving forward to optimize our engagement.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Special characters:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Eszett (ß) and Umlaut (ü) have fallback options by default:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in;" class=""><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Eszett becomes "ss".<o:p class=""></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Capital Eszett (ẞ) has only recently been introduced officially to the language, meaning that anything in capital letters used to be written using "SS" even on the press.<o:p class=""></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Umlaut characters (ä, ö, ü) become "ae", "oe", "ue".<o:p class=""></o:p></li></ul></div></div></blockquote><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Long live the Umlaut!<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Rubens Kühl</div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>