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<span style=" font-family:'Courier New'; font-size: 9pt;">and yet let me disagree<br>
who owns the IDs in all social networks and messengers? is it a user? no, it's the owner of the social network.<br>
take this identifier from you and you are Mr./Ms. nobody<br>
they can pick it up because you "violated" the policies of social networks and messengers<br>
is such an event real? is quite real.<br>
the situation is different with DNS and email<br>
yes, in DNS you are not the "owner" of the domain name, only the "holder" of the domain name, but no one can take it from you<br>
what are the risks when you'll associate, for example, your trademarks with identifiers in social networks and messengers?<br>
these are only two aspects? one more related to security issues<br>
it is true that millennials prefer messengers, but business culture does not in any way imply an official exchange of information via messengers, unofficial - yes<br>
messengers and social networks for personal communication - yes, but the fixation of significant business and social acts is not yet available<br>
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Yuri<br>
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Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 5:28:58 AM, you wrote:<br>
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<span style=" color: #800000;"><b>> On 28 Jul 2020, at 19:52, Jim DeLaHunt wrote:<br>
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>> UA Colleagues:<br>
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>> We spend a lot of time thinking about universal acceptance of email<br>
>> addresses and URLs. We tend to assume that email addresses and URLs<br>
>> are important. But for a lot of information technology users, they<br>
>> aren't. Those users learned to use IT via mobile, rather than via<br>
>> desktop computers. They use all-embracing messaging apps like WeChat,<br>
>> or walled garden social media sites where you find what you want by<br>
>> search. In these environments, email addresses and URLs just don't<br>
>> matter as much as they do in longer-established, and Anglo-centric, IT<br>
>> cultures.<br>
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> « I know ». Email address for my grown-up teen-agers has been a<br>
> temporary ID to subscribe to a service on the Internet. They verify your<br>
> email by sending a challenge to your email address. You click. done. no<br>
> use of email after. Then went Oauth enabling login using your<br>
> google/facebook/… credentials where the browser even help you to type<br>
> your userid. Therefore, for my kids, email does not really exist. About<br>
> URL, URLs were not designed to be readable by users, but just a link to<br>
> click on.<br>
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> Marc.<br>
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>> Here are an interesting blog post and an interesting news article on<br>
>> the topic:<br>
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>> /In China, email addresses are irrelevant/ • July 28, 2020 by John<br>
>> Yunker, blog post<br>
>> <</b></span></span><a style=" font-family:'courier new'; font-size: 9pt;" href="https://globalbydesign.com/2020/07/28/in-china-email-addresses-are-irrelevant/">https://globalbydesign.com/2020/07/28/in-china-email-addresses-are-irrelevant/</a><span style=" font-family:'courier new'; font-size: 9pt; color: #800000;"><b>><br>
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>> /Why email loses out to popular apps in Chin//a/ • 9th July 2020 by<br>
>> Lu-Hai Liang, BBC<br>
>> <</b></span><a style=" font-family:'courier new'; font-size: 9pt;" href="https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200707-why-email-loses-out-to-popular-apps-in-china">https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200707-why-email-loses-out-to-popular-apps-in-china</a><span style=" font-family:'courier new'; font-size: 9pt; color: #800000;"><b>><br>
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>> I think a useful response to this might be to keep asking ourselves,<br>
>> how do people communicate in preference to emails? How do people find<br>
>> things in preference to typing in URLs? Then investigating those<br>
>> methods for Universal Acceptance as well.<br>
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>> 'In Anglo-centric countries such as the UK, US, Canada, Australia and<br>
>> New Zealand, email retains the etiquette of an analogue age. The<br>
>> “Dear X” greetings and formal sign-offs – “Best regards” –<br>
>> and so on, reveal vestigial ties to letter writing.'<br>
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>> As I do in this email message. Best regards,<br>
>> —Jim DeLaHunt, software engineer, Vancouver, Canada<br>
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>> --<br>
>> . --Jim DeLaHunt, </b></span><a style=" font-family:'courier new'; font-size: 9pt;" href="mailto:jdlh@jdlh.com">jdlh@jdlh.com</a><span style=" font-family:'courier new'; font-size: 9pt; color: #800000;"><b> </b></span><a style=" font-family:'courier new'; font-size: 9pt;" href="http://blog.jdlh.com/">http://blog.jdlh.com/</a><span style=" font-family:'courier new'; font-size: 9pt; color: #800000;"><b> <br>
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