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<span style=" font-family:'Courier New'; font-size: 9pt;">yes<br>
and the factor when not every country will follow an system like WeChat, including the rules for the use of IDs<br>
It depends on local legislation and trade custom.<br>
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Yuri<br>
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Thursday, July 30, 2020, 1:51:59 AM, you wrote:<br>
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<td ><span style=" font-family:'calibri'; font-size: 11pt; color: #002060;">Jim, I was using the bank as an example, the 2 step validation applies to many sites. I take your point though that wechat is used instead of mail.<br>
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However, for security, the user should not always trust the wechat link and in some cases should type it in instead. Until all cases where typing a URL or an email are eliminated, native language and UA is important.<br>
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</u><span style=" font-family:'tahoma'; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;"><b>From:</b> Jim DeLaHunt [mailto:list+uasg@jdlh.com]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 29, 2020 3:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tex<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'ua-discuss'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [UA-discuss] Maybe email addresses and URLs might not matter anymore?<br>
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<span style=" font-family:'calibri';">Tex:<br>
<span style=" font-family:'times new roman';">On 2020-07-28 17:59, Tex wrote:<br>
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<td ><span style=" font-family:'calibri'; font-size: 11pt; color: #002060;">Thanks Jim.<br>
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When my bank emails me, they always write, if you don’t trust this email is from the bank, type in the URL. If the URL is not in my language, I have difficulty typing it.<br>
When I am redirected to a site, I often review the URL for security and as a way to establish trust. If it is not in my language, I will be unsure of the correct spelling and whether the site is phony or not. It is not the only test, but it is part of the assurance.</td>
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<span style=" font-family:'calibri'; font-size: 12pt;">This scenario is valid for banks who send emails to customers, and customers who log into bank websites. But the point of the BBC article is that, for many in China, all the communication occurs within the WeChat app.<br>
1) The bank presumably sends a WeChat message from their WeChat presence to the customer's WeChat account, not an email.<br>
2) The customer is presumably given a link to the bank's WeChat or web site presence. The customer clicks the link, and doesn't attempt to enter in a web address.<br>
The BBC article didn't talk about fraud within WeChat or similar systems. There is probably a fraud risk. I don't know what either the WeChat system or users within WeChat do about the fraud risk. But the article makes it seem unlikely that the routine response is to drop out of the "walled garden" and start using outside URLs and email addresses.<br>
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<td ><span style=" font-family:'calibri'; font-size: 11pt; color: #002060;">We can agree that for many cases users do not interact with email and URLs.… </td>
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<span style=" font-family:'calibri'; font-size: 12pt;">Yes, we can agree on this. My point is that UASG's efforts have nothing to say about these cases, and that those cases matter.<br>
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<td ><span style=" font-family:'calibri'; font-size: 11pt; color: #002060;">…But when they do, native language is important.</td>
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<span style=" font-family:'calibri'; font-size: 12pt;">Agreed, but not my point in this thread.<br>
<span style=" font-family:'times new roman';">Best regards,<br>
—Jim "writing emails in North American mode" DeLaHunt, software engineer, Vancouver, Canada<br>
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