[UA-EAI] [UA-discuss] Additional Documents for EAI Call later this week
Zied BOUZIRI
zied.bouziri at gmail.com
Wed Aug 8 13:29:43 UTC 2018
Hi Evan
Test case are displayed correctly with google sheet
[image: image.png]
But with I still have the same display issues with MS Excel (2011) on mac
os 10.10.5
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Please note Arabic test cases mixing RTL and LTR label/codePoint (line 11,
12 and 22) are confusable for the Arabic user
How to distinguish between Mailbox and domain parts ? this depends on
reading from left to right or right to left.
On may,09 2018 we had a good discussionIn in the UA-Discuss mailing list
about RTL and LTR issues with Arabic scripts.
Best regards
Le mer. 8 août 2018 à 04:55, Evan Hanson <evanh at catalyst.net.nz> a écrit :
> Hi Zied,
>
> I think these display issues have been corrected in the new version, but
> could you confirm?
>
> It's available at this URL:
> https://seafile.catalyst.net.nz/d/4a7722d9db12406982bc/files/?p=/Email%20Address%20Internationalization%20-%20Discovery%20and%20Analysis%20-%20Test%20Cases.xlsx&dl=1
>
> Thanks,
>
> Evan
>
> On 02/08/18 11:29, Zied BOUZIRI wrote:
>
> Hi
> Looking at the spreadsheet, Email use case sheet :
>
> Arabic uses cases are not displayed correctly, for example :
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> the correct form is
> info6 at test.الاختبار-القبول-العالمي
>
> other wrong use cases :
> [image: image.png]
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> Best regards
>
>
>
> Le mar. 31 juil. 2018 à 19:24, Don Hollander <don.hollander at icann.org> a
> écrit :
>
>> Some additional comments from me…
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> I would have liked a description of the test to be included in the
>> report. Perhaps something along the line of:
>>
>>
>>
>> - Can an EAI address be created? (relevant components)
>> - Can the application send mail to an EAI Address? (relevant
>> component)
>> - This will include To;, Cc;, & Bcc
>> - This will also include a mixture of EAI & non-EAI addresses in
>> the To, cc, & bcc
>> - This will also include evaluating replies.
>> - Can the application receive mail from an EAI Address (relevant
>> component)
>> - This will include ability to receive, and how the EAI addresses
>> are displayed.
>> - Are Unicode in passwords accepted an EAI Issue? Are the worth
>> testing while we’re testing other components?
>> - Is Linkification an EAI issue? Is it worth testing while we’re
>> testing other components?
>> - Are the open dots transformed to closed dots
>> - *By having these last three items in the body of the report we can
>> easily get decisions from the community. *
>>
>>
>>
>> Now looking at the spreadsheet
>>
>>
>>
>> MUA
>>
>> - Do we care about Unstructured Headers? Does it make a difference
>> - Do we care about linkification in this exercise?
>> - Do we care about passwords in Unicode in this exercise?
>> - EA-MUA-032 – this is the alias/transformation issue. We want the
>> message sent with an ASCII Alias, we do NOT want a transformation on the fly
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m not sure that we want to define the failure to support an Open Dot as
>> “failure”. But it should be a warning. This specific issue is under
>> discussion.
>>
>>
>>
>> Similarly, the whole linkification thing should probably be a warning,
>> not a failure. I don’t think that’s core to the EAI issue. But a topic
>> the UASG does have interest.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t think that there’s anywhere that we want to test the Domain Name
>> separate from an email address. Thus, I don’t think this tab is relevant
>> (and not relevant in text unless we’re testing for linkification)
>>
>>
>>
>> Do we need a ‘reference’ set of software that we know are EAI ready that
>> we can test against?
>>
>>
>>
>> When we test, do we need to test multiple MUAs against multiple MTAs,
>> etc?
>>
>>
>>
>> And, again, is there already existing a test suite of data that is
>> commonly used? Or is this something that we are creating as well?
>>
>>
>>
>> And, finally, the last part of this contract is to estimate the effort to
>> exercise a pilot evaluation for a single environment. How big do we want
>> this pilot evaluation to be? Just a single instance of each of the
>> component parts or a number larger than 1 to allow some diversity in the
>> testing?
>>
>>
>>
>> Talk tomorrow (my time)
>>
>>
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mark Svancarek (CELA) <marksv at microsoft.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 1 August 2018 6:01 AM
>> *To:* Don Hollander <don.hollander at icann.org>; ua-eai at icann.org;
>> ua-discuss at icann.org
>> *Subject:* [Ext] RE: Additional Documents for EAI Call later this week
>>
>>
>>
>> Report looks good. I would like to point out that Microsoft Outlook is
>> another example where the product is available on multiple platforms
>> (Windows, Mac, iOS and Android) and has significant code differences
>> between platforms.
>>
>>
>>
>> The test suite looks very comprehensive but will take longer to review
>> for accuracy and completeness.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Don
>> Hollander
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 30, 2018 03:38
>> *To:* ua-eai at icann.org; ua-discuss at icann.org
>> *Subject:* [UA-discuss] Additional Documents for EAI Call later this week
>>
>>
>>
>> Please see the latest draft of Phase 1 of the EAI Evaluation Study.
>>
>>
>>
>> This will be part of the discussion at our EAI Call later this week.
>>
>>
>>
>> - https://seafile.catalyst.net.nz/d/4a7722d9db12406982bc/files/?p=/Email
>> Address Internationalization - Discovery and Analysis - Report.pdf&dl=1
>> [seafile.catalyst.net.nz]
>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__seafile.catalyst.net.nz_d_4a7722d9db12406982bc_files_-3Fp-3D_Email-2520Address-2520Internationalization-2520-2D-2520Discovery-2520and-2520Analysis-2520-2D-2520Report.pdf-26dl-3D1%26d%3DDwMDaQ%26c%3DFmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM%26r%3DYI0XKyKCabKQi3GVWLvuoyCWjH9WBgEBxLbMnmhSRwo%26m%3DIiAX2h03Fxfz8pZGv1ybjhFyywp8FvKb7RcZqdevge8%26s%3DODn4tib8y9HJIcjngWZVvnJbbMuWUbeHXRVYRhfyg6I%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7Cd5db860e988f4515cf2708d5f60883b5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636685438797208928&sdata=MyKYQ2C%2BWJeSqq1Px7617%2B1MepKvNkTYb2aZDR7q1YE%3D&reserved=0>
>> - https://seafile.catalyst.net.nz/d/4a7722d9db12406982bc/files/?p=/Email
>> Address Internationalization - Discovery and Analysis - Test
>> Cases.xlsx&dl=1 [seafile.catalyst.net.nz]
>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__seafile.catalyst.net.nz_d_4a7722d9db12406982bc_files_-3Fp-3D_Email-2520Address-2520Internationalization-2520-2D-2520Discovery-2520and-2520Analysis-2520-2D-2520Test-2520Cases.xlsx-26dl-3D1%26d%3DDwMDaQ%26c%3DFmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM%26r%3DYI0XKyKCabKQi3GVWLvuoyCWjH9WBgEBxLbMnmhSRwo%26m%3DIiAX2h03Fxfz8pZGv1ybjhFyywp8FvKb7RcZqdevge8%26s%3DfNb8gwVihGFujWBuG4kVc0u2xCfrTaDsHwr0Vb093Y4%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7Cd5db860e988f4515cf2708d5f60883b5%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636685438797208928&sdata=AvsIFe0Q9uIBtix%2FP9dilJnNyrZ7BJzxQc8ik3a%2BT20%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>> The first is a PDF of the report
>>
>> The second is a spreadsheet of the test suite
>>
>>
>>
>> Don
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>> Don Hollander
>>
>> Secretary General – UASG
>>
>> Skype: Don_Hollander
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *cordially*, *مع تحياتي*
> *Zied BOUZIRI*، *زياد بوزيري*
> ISET Charguia, Tunisie
> www.bouziri.tn
>
>
> --
> Evan Hanson
> Analyst and Programmer
> Catalyst IT - Open Source Technologists
> DDI: +64 4 803 2415 // Tel: +64 4 449 2267 // www.catalyst.net.nz
>
>
--
*cordially*, *مع تحياتي*
*Zied BOUZIRI*، *زياد بوزيري*
ISET Charguia, Tunisie
www.bouziri.tn
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