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Patrick,<br>
<br>
I honestly don't know enough about the public comments handling
process to be able to respond intelligently. It was not one (of the
many) things that I looked at when I was on the Board, although I
did flag it when I was on the Board's Public Participation Committee
as something that I thought should be looked at, because it did seem
to me to be very "Vogon" (1) style communication, and that it would
benefit from an effective reach-out process whenever anything was
published for public comment.<br>
<br>
Perhaps we could have a chat off-line about this ? I understood
that work was being done to review the whole public comment process,
but I have no idea where that has got to.<br>
<br>
Dennis<br>
<br>
(1) "There's been a sign on Alpha Centauri for the last millennium,
why did you not read it ?!"<br>
<br>
On 06/01/2012 10:46, Patrik Fältström wrote:
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cite="mid:DFE2DA84-17C2-4B46-A136-18DC936500F5@frobbit.se"
type="cite"><br>
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<div>On 6 jan 2012, at 11:05, Dennis Jennings wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; font-size: medium; ">I know that many people, including
yourself, feel strongly about many of the IDN Variant
issues, and I very much appreciate your continuing support
for the VIP Project.<br>
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<br>
<div>Dennis, this conclusion is correct, but let me because of
this also bring up another issue regarding a very big flaw in
the way ICANN handle public comments.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The comments are to be submitted to a webpage, without any
requirement for feedback or *discussion* what so ever.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This have during the years lead to people simply not
submitting comments, but instead repeatedly asking ICANN how to
send in comments, or claim that it was impossible to comment or
participate.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The lack of ability to *discuss* the various issues is
something that ICANN must start to take very serious.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Just look at the gTLD process, or more specifically two
examples I would like to rise:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1. The JIG report that due to the lack of discussion was what
I claim "blocked". Specifically regarding one-character TLD.
After about a year or so delay, ICANN board did ask the ACs for
comments, and yes, SSAC is working on a response. If the
responses from the ACs are _very_different_ from the findings in
the JIG report, what kind of conclusions can then be drawn under
the review of the AOC regarding requirement of openness?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>2. The discussions regarding confusability as part of the
feedback loop during the IDN ccTLD fast track resulted in a
board resolution that says more or less that it is ok to
delegate confusingly similar TLDs if it is to the same registry.
That is a board resolution that has been taken and as far as I
know, none of the ACs where asked for input. There is an
interesting discussion going on whether one or more of the ACs
must point out that that decision by the board was most
certainly premature, and that the advice (that still could have
been ignored by the board of course) could have been to be more
careful from the ACs.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I certainly hope that none of these two examples will lead to
any large problems, but I at the same time do not want to have
this report end up being one that for example SSAC must at least
discuss internally if we should do a detailed review of and come
to our own conclusions that we submit to the board -- and in the
mean time we ask the board to not draw any conclusions from it.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am just nervous how the participants of for example SSAC
will react when we will discuss this report.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If they are ok with the process, we can move on, if not, we
look at a delay of a year or so.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> Patrik</div>
<div><br>
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