[WP1] Content Draft with Comments and Tracked Changes - next (Final) draft out 0300 Friday UTC

Mon Apr 20 01:03:20 UTC 2015

Roelof, all:

My brief answer would be: because the lawyers are still learning about
icann, it was not clear on that call that their analysis plus our knowledge
had yet merged to the point there was a concrete proposal.

Hopefully this is a main point for discussion on Tuesday's long scheduled
meeting - can you be there?

Best
Jordan

On Monday, 20 April 2015, Roelof Meijer <Roelof.Meijer at sidn.nl> wrote:

>   Greg, Jordan,
>
>  What I fail to understand is that -because we do not have the expertise
> "in house"- we hire two firms that are experts in this field, they give us
> their shared opinion and we do not follow that.
> It seems to me that this is one of those things that makes this whole
> process sometimes so slow and incredibly time consuming.
>
>  Do not misunderstand me, I respect the legal experts we have in the
> CCWG. But we pay (ICANN pays, so the internet community pays) dearly for
> this advice, they are both renown firms that we took quite some time to
> select. Why not accept the outcome and move forward, spending our precious
> time on all the work that still has to be done?
>
>  Best,
>
>  Roelof
>
>   From: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc at gmail.com');>>
> Date: vrijdag 17 april 2015 17:28
> To: Roelof Meijer <roelof.meijer at sidn.nl
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','roelof.meijer at sidn.nl');>>
> Cc: Jordan Carter <jordan at internetnz.net.nz
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jordan at internetnz.net.nz');>>, "
> wp1 at icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wp1 at icann.org');>" <
> wp1 at icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wp1 at icann.org');>>
> Subject: Re: [WP1] Content Draft with Comments and Tracked Changes - next
> (Final) draft out 0300 Friday UTC
>
>   Roelof,
>
>  I'm not sure if this answers your question, but I will try.
>
>  We do have the recommendation from outside counsel that can be boiled
> down (though losing nuance) to the statement you quote.  However, it is our
> decision, not the lawyers', regarding the mechanism the CCWG will actually
> recommend (though such decision should duly take into account the lawyers'
> advice among other things).  "Clarity" regarding that decision by the CCWG
> has not yet been achieved.
>
>  Greg
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Roelof Meijer <Roelof.Meijer at sidn.nl
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Roelof.Meijer at sidn.nl');>> wrote:
>
>>  Dear Jordan, all,
>>
>>  I couldn't attend the call, so I probably missed something.
>> But how did we end up with the two law firms we hire stating: "On
>> balance, "member" organization provides the clearest path for the ICANN
>> community to exercise the mechanisms and powers under consideration. " and
>>  our rapporteur concluding: "Following the CCWG meeting on 10 April, the
>> rapporteur had assumed there would be clarity regarding the proposed
>> mechanism. This has not occurred*"*
>>
>>
>>  Best,
>>
>>  Roelof
>>
>>   From: Jordan Carter <jordan at internetnz.net.nz
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jordan at internetnz.net.nz');>>
>> Date: donderdag 16 april 2015 23:10
>> To: "wp1 at icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wp1 at icann.org');>" <
>> wp1 at icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wp1 at icann.org');>>
>> Subject: [WP1] Content Draft with Comments and Tracked Changes - next
>> (Final) draft out 0300 Friday UTC
>>
>>   Hi eveyone
>>
>>  Thanks for the call just now.
>>
>>  Attached is the working document.
>>
>>  Please review if you are inclined. If you have specific comments please
>> raise them ON THE LIST rather than just to me, so anyone else can react,
>> and I will take into account any comments on THIS version received by 0200
>> UTC on Friday.
>>
>>  I will take these comments, clean the document up, do what I can in the
>> time available to add things like the tables / options for votes, and
>> then...
>>
>>  ... and then circulate a nice clean Final Draft for you (and a mark up
>> showing what has changed from V3) at around *0300 UTC on Friday.*
>>
>>  Then you will have 21h to make any final comments or thoughts.
>>
>>  Then, I'll make final adjustments and send it to the co-chairs and
>> staff, or wherever they tell us to send it, for incorporation in the full
>> document.
>>
>>  This isn't perfect work folks, but it's pretty darn good given the pace
>> at which we are working.  *Thank you* for all the effort represented
>> here.
>>
>>  cheers
>> Jordan
>>
>>  --
>>   Jordan Carter
>>
>> Chief Executive
>> *InternetNZ*
>>
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