[WP1] Pls Read - Agenda for Meeting - WP1 on Fri 30 October at 18h UTC

Greg Shatan gregshatanipc at gmail.com
Fri Oct 30 17:42:43 UTC 2015


I agree with everything Robin just said, and it will be even more difficult
for any of the 3 groups of "commercial stakeholders" to have any voice,
given the internal "wiring" of the GNSO Council, and the different
viewpoints of these 3 groups.

Greg

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org> wrote:

> My responses to the questions below.  Thanks, Robin
>
> On Oct 29, 2015, at 9:06 PM, Jordan Carter wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> *a) Do we support the decision-making model (by consensus) replacing the
> voting approach?*
>
> I do not believe that we are "replacing" the voting approach simply by
> calling it "consensus".  What we are doing, in the shift, is altering the
> relative weight of the various SO-AC's decision making authority, in the
> direction that is opposite what public comment called for.
>
>
> *b) Do we support only one view being expressed by each SO or AC?*
>
> No.  At the final decision level in the community mechanism, it is
> important that diverse and minority views be expressed.  For example the
> GNSO consists of 3 commercial stake-holders and 1 non-commercial
> stakeholders.  It will be virtually impossible for non-commercial view
> points to matter if the GNSO is "forced" to vote a single way.  Otherwise,
> we will always risk tyranny of the majority.
>
>
> *c) Do we support an equal say for each participating SO or AC?*
>
> No.  The decisional weights should reflect the existing corporate
> structure of ICANN - its board of directors and apportion relative weights
> accordingly (leaving out those who wish to be left out).  We have said all
> along we weren't going to use this accountability process to elevate some
> SO's or AC's relative to others.
>
>
>
> *We also need to address the following:*
>
> *d) In our Third Draft Proposal, which SOs and ACs do we propose should be
> participating? that is, do we respect the SSAC's desire not to, and do we
> take a view re RSSAC?*
>
> Only the ALAC should be a participating AC in the decision making
> mechanism.  The ACs who do not desire to participate understand what their
> role is and the potential harm in shifting it and we should absolutely
> respect that.  As a general principle, ACs should remain "advisory" and not
> have an additional say in the community mechanism, although ALAC can have
> one to match its board member.
>
> *e) Based on our answer to d), do we need to make any changes to the
> numbers in the decision-making framework?*
>
>
>
> Yes, we need to listen to public comments and find an arrangement that is
> more in line with the existing relative weights among SO-ACs and does not
> empower ACs over SOs as is currently being proposed.
>
>
>
>
> *3. Other Work Required by WP1*
> *I do not have a current list of work we need to do in the next fortnight
> but believe this will be clearer following next week's CCWG. I welcome
> staff or co-chairs' input on this at this point of the WP1 agenda, and of
> course suggestions from WP1 participants.*
>
>
> *4. Any Other Business*
>
>
>
> *Papers*
>
> I attach PDFs of the Dublin Approach paper and of the Public Comment
> report section on voting.
>
> The Dublin paper Google Doc is at: <
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zHZl_NvQ1WChatX8NT2Q1rQi4zQZgbrbAxrQSsH3tZQ/edit
> >
>
> The full WP1 Public Comment is at: <
> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/56142506/2015-10-12-CCWG-WP1-SecondPC-FullAnalysis.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1444644438000&api=v2
> >
>
> You may also find the staff analysis of Public Comments useful, which
> deals with voting specifically in a couple of the tabs (Model and
> Voting-Forum): <
> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/54693137/PC2%20tool%20-%2024%20SeptBTv2.xlsx?version=1&modificationDate=1443208173000&api=v2
> >
>
> cheers
> Jordan
>
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