<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Jonathan, all,<div class="">I would like to share a few thoughts on this with you.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- I understand that the legal sub team is reaching out to the firms we use to get an answer to the question whether there is a possibility for the community to call the board to action. If there was an affirmative response to that, the stress tests would not fail.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- If there were no such possibility to call the board to action, there would still be the possibility to remove the board. I understand that not all issues with the Board should be resolved by using this nuclear option, I still think this is a way the board can be threatened to take action requested by the community. Thus, I am not sure the response to the stress test would inevitably be „inadequate“. Avri’s point is a very good one. By requesting the Board to provide information on progress made and action / inaction, the Board is forced to deal with recommendations and provide a rationale for their (in)activity. One of the concerns would certainly be around security, stability and resiliency of the DNS. If the Board chooses to ignore a recommendation by the SSAC and puts that in writing, inaction would likely be a violation of the bylaws we are working on and could lead to removing the Board. To me, Avri’s recommendation combined with the possibility to get the board removed, could be deemed a sufficient response to the stress test. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It is imperative that we closely collaborate with the CWG on this, so I guess it would be worthwhile to discuss with the CWG as to when they would deem a response adequate or inadequate so that we apply the same standards.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class="">Thomas</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 09.04.2015 um 15:46 schrieb Jonathan Zuck <<a href="mailto:jzuck@actonline.org" class="">jzuck@actonline.org</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="" role="textbox" useinlinestyle="true" dir="ltr" style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; outline: none; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', NotoColorEmoji, 'Segoe UI Symbol', 'Android Emoji', EmojiSymbols; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Folks,</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">We didn't end up with time for this on the Wenesday WP1 call but I, and others, continue to be concerned about scenarios where the board fails to act. 6 of the approved stress tests involve a failure to act on the part of the board (as opposed to a decision we can oppose) and, as such, will not evaluate well with what appears to be the current draft for public comment. There's a proposed bylaw change from ATRT2 that should help, along with some minor language changes from WP2.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">When ST-WP applies the stress tests to proposed mechanisms, we look at all proposed measures that are under active consideration in the CCWG. (Those are the measures cited in the right column of each stress test). <span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">When the CCWG and CWG package their proposals for public comment, the ST-WP can then re-apply the stress tests to what is actually proposed.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">6 stress tests anticipated a community power that may fail to make the cut for first public comment: a proposal from the Frankfurt meeting would allow the community to force ICANN to implement a previously-approved Review Team Recommendation or consensus policy. Another suggested power would allow the community to force ICANN to respond to formal advice from an Advisory Committee (SSAC, ALAC, GAC, RSSAC).</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">The ST-WP notes that several stress tests would likely flip from ’Adequate’ to ‘Inadequate’ if the community lacked any new powers to force ICANN to consider and respond to formal advice from an Advisory Committee. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">You might recall that Alan Greenberg originally brought up the notion of "compelling the board to take action” in Frankfurt and there are several of the existing stress tests that highlight the need for that capability on the part of the community. Specifically, </span><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Stress test 11 was inspired by the recent breach at ICANN and the inability of the community to extract information about the breach. Without the ability to spur action, that stress test would fail. This stress test relies upon the community’s ability to “force ICANN to implement a recommendation arising from an AOC review, namely SSR"</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Stress test 17 was about recommendations that are ignored by the board. One example we have used for some time is on the issue of Name Collisions and certs where a fairly large outcry on the part of the community was required to spur action a year ago. Another example is dotless domains where there was very specific advice from SSAC as well as consensus concern and the board was slow to respond. This stress test relies upon the community’s ability to "force ICANN to respond to recommendations from advisory committees such as SSAC."</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">There is a similar concern with stress tests 3,4, 20, and 22, since they rely upn community ability to “force ICANN to implement a consensus policy or recommendation of an AoC review” </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Avri brought up recommendation 9 of the ATRT with respect to advice which dictates the board respond to advice in a timely manner:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">9.1. ICANN Bylaws Article XI should be amended to include the following language to mandate Board Response to Advisory Committee Formal Advice: </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><i class="">The ICANN Board will respond in a timely manner to formal advice from all Advisory Committees, explaining what action it took and the rationale for doing so.</i></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">The question then arose whether a board "response" would be sufficient to trigger the other review mechanisms currently under consideration by WP2 so it was resolved to discuss that with Becky and her team. Perhaps it would be enough to dictate that the trigger mechanism for a review is a decision or response from the board. If not, we might need revisit a specific community power to induce the board to vote on a recommendation so that the vote can act as a trigger for further review if necessary.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">I would really like to see if we could get these two changes into our draft before it goes to public comment. 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