<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Alan,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I think you advance some interesting concepts. As for AoC outcomes, I have to admit I am not enough of a student of the AoC reviews to know whether the outcomes have been affected by less than optimal membership. I suppose those who have participated in them would have a better idea. As a general matter, I am wary of any review that excludes entire organizations, though it may be mitigated by working methods. I could try to ask an IPC member who has been a member of an AoC review team, but it is my understanding that there has never been an IPC member on an AoC review team (though I would be happy to be corrected).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Alan Greenberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I have concerns with this, but in the direction opposite to that of Greg.
If every, or even some AC/SOs availed themselves of the full complement
of allowed participants, these groups would grow to be a size that I am
not sure is warranted. I would prefer to see a process by which we select
people with knowledge and understanding of the issue to be discussed, AND
a real willingness to do some hard work.<br><br>
I do not have the magic formula on how to do this, but it is crucial to
good review outcomes.<br><br>
In response to Greg, are there examples in the AoC reviews that we have
gone through where there are clear situations where the outcomes have
suffered from the less than optimal membership rules? In the ALAC, we
have not had the "perfect" balance from all five regions that
we often desire, but I am far less sure that the OUTCOMES have been
impacted due to the internal consultation that we do as well as the
overall AoC RT's desire to solicit input widely.<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
At 03/07/2015 11:06 PM, Steve DelBianco wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type="cite"><font face="Calibri">Avri and I
recommend this text on creation of review teams for AoC reviews
being brought into the bylaws. We picked-up in the community voting
weights that will be used for AC/SOs exercising their “community
powers†here: <br>
</font><div><div class="h5"><br>
<dl>
<dd><font face="Calibri">All reviews will be conducted by a volunteer
community review team </font>comprised of representatives of the relevant
Advisory Committees, Supporting Organizations, and the chair of the ICANN
Board. <br>
<font face="Calibri"><br>
</font></dd><dd><font face="Calibri">Up to 5 volunteers are welcomed from each AC/SO, to accommodate
</font></dd>representatives of individual stakeholder groups. If a
review team conducts a consensus call on its report and recommendations,
voting will be equalized among the participating AC/SOs.<br>
<font face="Calibri"><br>
<dd>The group must be as diverse as possible.<br>
</dd></font><br>
</dl><br>
Thoughts on that?<br><br>
From: Jordan Carter<br>
Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 11:29 PM<br>
To: "<a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org" target="_blank">wp1@icann.org</a>"<br>
Subject: [WP1] WP1 Work to Do - Now to July - Please Read<br><br>
Dear all <br><br>
Thanks for the contributions on our work planning call for Work Party 1
today. Please read this email carefully and add your thoughts. <br>
<br>
A separate note later today or early tomorrow will outline the WP1
meetings we need to have between now and 14 July.<br><br>
<br>
We have three pieces of work to do by the end of the month. They are
listed below, and then some detail fleshed out in the rest of this email,
along with the call for volunteers...<br>
<br>
Three things need to be done:<br><br>
1. Prepare draft content for our Second Public Comment report, for
discussion at Paris & finalising by end month<br><br>
2. Start the bylaws-preparation process, using the AOC reviews as a test
case<br><br>
3. Prepare responses to all the public comments from PC1<br><br>
<br>
On 1: the chunks of work we need to do are to prepare updated content
that takes account of:<br><br>
- the feedback received in PC1<br>
- the discussions with the community and in our group at Buenos
Aires<br>
- further analysis and refinement we make as WP1<br><br>
This draft material should be done in time for the Paris meeting, and so
has to respect the document freeze on 14 July. <br><br>
We need to do this for the following areas, and we need a Lead Volunteer
for each area:<br><br>
Community Mechanism - balance of power / votes / influence<br>
Community Mechanism - whether there is a Council, or just a vote counting
mechanism<br><br>
Community Power - Budget/Strat Plan / Operating Plan<br>
Community Power - Blocking ordinary bylaws changes<br>
Community Power - Approving Fundamental Bylaws changes<br>
Community Power - Removal of individual Directors<br>
Community Power - Recall of the whole ICANN Board<br><br>
Affirmation of Commitments - inclusion of AOC reviews in bylaws<br>
Affirmation of Commitments - other matters (what happens to AOC,
etc)<br><br>
<br>
Not on this list is the Model itself (empowered designators, empowered
SO/AC) - my understanding is that the lawyers are being asked to develop
material on this, and that it will be central to our meeting in
Paris.<br><br>
<br>
If there are areas of work omitted above, please raise them ASAP.
<br><br>
<br>
:: Call for Volunteers ::<br>
<br>
If you would like to volunteer to lead any particular piece of work
for the above, please do so ASAP - by email to me, or to this email
list.<br><br>
Ideally, there will be one volunteer for each of the lines above. I have
some people who have agreed to be "voluntold" - Avri and Matt
Shears are in this category. But for the start, free choice!<br><br>
The task will be to be lead writer on a tracked changes version of the
PC1 content, showing what you propose to change for the Second report.
<br><br>
The approach asked is to:<br><br>
a) analyse the public comments and the discussions in BA<br>
b) propose draft text changes that take this into account<br><br>
The example Steve delBianco circulated earlier today is a way to do
it.<br><br>
<br>
Your drafting will lead to discussion of your proposed content in WP1. We
will do as much as we can to improve the drafts and get consensus, but we
will debate all the material through in Paris is my current
knowledge.<br><br>
On item 2 - bylaws drafting - Steve has started this process with the
AOC and we will discuss this content on our next WP1 call.<br><br>
On item 3 - public comments replies - I propose that people take some
account of this as they do the drafting work, and be prepared to spend
some time on completing this task (responses to the comments we got in
PC1) *after* the Paris meeting.<br><br>
<br>
I look forward to your thoughts as to any gaps in the proposed work, and
to your volunteering excellence.<br><br>
<br><br>
cheers<br>
Jordan<br><br>
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