<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Jor dan</div><div>Thank you for reply</div><div>First </div><div>regarding Quorum, I was not referring to ICA but to other Voting instances in which the voting threshold is mentioned but Quorum did not</div><div>Pls read my message again.</div><div>Second</div><div>Regarding ICA.</div><div>In a) below it is mentioned </div><div>Quote <font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font></div><ol style="list-style-type:lower-alpha;direction:ltr"><li style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal"><p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:2pt;margin-bottom:6pt"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;"><em>": The ICA
is <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;">advisory and discussion</b> based –
it has <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"><u>no</u></b> decision-making
rights other than to select a Chair among its members, and to agree matters
related to its own operation as a group."</em></span></p></li></ol><div style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:2pt;margin-bottom:6pt"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">Unquote</span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:2pt;margin-bottom:6pt"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">However, no mention is made of the basis on which the advice is formulated ( Unanimity, Consensus( AND NOT ROIUGH OR SOFT ONE as used by IETF which I am uncomfortable with since many yeas as HUM for me is an imitation by others to the noise made by few and does in no way provide any views ) , Super Majority or Simple Majority?</span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:2pt;margin-bottom:6pt"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">Third</span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:2pt;margin-bottom:6pt"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">About IANA Budget</span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:2pt;margin-bottom:6pt"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">Let me make it clear that I did not understand the alternative option preferred by Martin for IANA Budget as a separate Budget .</span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:2pt;margin-bottom:6pt"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">What I do not recommend is to tie the INANA Budget with ICANN General Budget.</span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:2pt;margin-bottom:6pt"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">Regards</span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:2pt;margin-bottom:6pt"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">Kavouss </span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:2pt;margin-bottom:6pt"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">,</span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;margin-top:2pt;margin-bottom:6pt"><span style="mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;"><br></span></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font></div><div> </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-07-26 4:53 GMT+02:00 Jordan Carter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thank you Keith, Alan for these comments. I've attached some comments back on them. All very helpful.<div><br></div><div>I'm sorry for the confusion around the Public Accountability Forum idea. What I was trying to suggest was that that suggestion be incorporated in the ICA so two "things" aren't being created.</div><div><br></div><div>From memory, the notion of the Public Accountability Forum was to bring together board, staff and the SO/ACs in a public exchange of views and questions and comments about accountability issues - a sort of open round table, done at an ICANN meeting once a year. The point was to help build mutual accountability across the ICANN system, not just vertical accountability - helping to solve the "who watches the watchers" conundrum.</div><div><br></div><div>This could easily be done under the umbrella of the ICANN Community Assembly, perhaps with supplementary attendance or speaking rights e.g. for more of the Board, maybe the SO/AC leadership as well. </div><div><br></div><div>But creating it as a separate beast seems pointless....</div><div><br></div><div>cheers</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>Jordan</div></font></span><span><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 July 2015 at 06:54, Alan Greenberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
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And a bunch of comments from me.<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
At 25/07/2015 09:03 AM, Drazek, Keith wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Thanks Jordan, this looks very
good to me. I’ve made a few proposed red-lined edits in the attached,
supported by comments. Happy to discuss further.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Keith<br>
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mailto:wp1-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jordan Carter<span><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 24, 2015 10:57 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [WP1] New section - ICANN Community Assembly<br>
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Hi all<br>
<br>
I have taken the draft material from an older paper about the ICANN
Community Assembly and pulled it into one place.<br>
<br>
Please see attached and debate away! I've tried to be clear on its
solely advisory nature, and have suggested that this would be the forum
to use for the Public Accountability Forum suggestion made by advisors a
while ago.<br>
<br>
<br>
best,<br>
Jordan<i><br></i></span></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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