<div dir="ltr">Lawyers&#39; take on quorum / voting thresholds.<div>J</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Gregory, Holly</b> <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com">holly.gregory@sidley.com</a>&gt;</span><br>Date: 29 July 2015 at 03:05<br>Subject: RE: Voting Thresholds<br>To: &quot;Gregory, Holly&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:holly.gregory@sidley.com">holly.gregory@sidley.com</a>&gt;, Jordan Carter &lt;<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>&gt;, &quot;Rosemary E. Fei&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rfei@adlercolvin.com">rfei@adlercolvin.com</a>&gt;, ACCT-Staff &lt;<a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org">acct-staff@icann.org</a>&gt;, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía &lt;<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>&gt;<br><br><br>







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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I am resending with some minor corrections of a typographical nature for clarity:<u></u><u></u></span></p><span class="">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">We have considered the approach set forth in your email below and believe it to be an elegantly simple approach.
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</span><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">The key is that the phrase “<i>votes that could be cast by participants in the CMSM at that time</i>” refers to the number of potential votes ( “votes
 outstanding”), which is the sum of the votes available to those SOs and ACs that have formally opted in to participate. 
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">The  notice provision for opting in and opting out,  and the restriction on a new participant voting
<i>or having their votes count for purposes of tallying the total “vote outstanding” with respect to any vote that is pending when they join</i>  are necessary limitations in this approach.  (These are the provisions you presented today as we understand them.)
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">We note that the community powers are important and are not standard issue – and if those with voting rights don’t  want to participate in a particular
 vote, that indicates a lack of interest that shouldn’t be allowed to make it easier for the passionately involved to prevail.  Your standard addresses this. 
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Also, since almost all CMSM votes happen
<i>after</i> there has been a petition (exception is director election which is in the hands of individual SOs and ACS) and votes do not occur at meetings, we see no need for the usual quorum requirements that specify when a meeting could go forward at which
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From: <b>Jordan Carter</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>&gt;<br>
Date: 29 July 2015 at 02:20<br>
Subject: Voting Thresholds<br>
To: &quot;<a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org" target="_blank">wp1@icann.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org" target="_blank">wp1@icann.org</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:1.0in">We have tried to propose the very simplest model possible, as follows. Please review this and be ready to discuss on WP1 in ~4.5 hrs or so.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;The CCWG-Accountability proposes that for the purposes of the simplest possible administration of the voting system that the thresholds expressed for each community power should be absolute.
 This means that if a threshold is 66%, then 66%+ of the votes that could be cast by participants in the CMSM at that time need to be &#39;yes&#39; votes for the threshold to be met. No votes, abstentions or non-participation would all be treated the same way.&quot;</span></i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;An alternative approach that adjusted the thresholds based on the number of yes/no votes compared with the number of abstentions or non-votes was considered, but adds significant complexity
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