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I also strongly support this position, but I have to note that the
CWG-Stewardship and thus the ICG proposal calls for a full ICANN Budget
veto.<br><br>
See ICG Proposal Page 13, Paragraph 31.1; Page 14, Para 31.2b; Page 20,
Para 65; Page 40 and others.<br><br>
There is no rationale for it, and as far as I can tell, there is
absolutely no need for requiring it to fulfill the IANA role, but it is
plainly there and based on the words alone, does not seem to allow a lot
of wriggle room.<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
At 08/10/2015 09:11 AM, Cherine Chalaby wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Roelof and Tijani, <br>
As you know I fully support your position. <br>
Cherine<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">On 8 Oct 2015, at 12:41, Tijani
BEN JEMAA
<<a href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@fmai.org.tn">
tijani.benjemaa@fmai.org.tn</a>> wrote:<br><br>
Roelof,<br>
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I have the same position. I think the formal a priori involvement of the
community in the budget development would void the need for the budget
veto.<br>
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<b>Tijani BEN JEMAA<br>
</b>Executive Director<br>
Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (<b>FMAI</b>)<br>
Phone: + 216 41 649 605<br>
Mobile: + 216 98 330 114<br>
Fax: + 216 70 853 376<br>
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<b>De :</b> Roelof Meijer
[<a href="mailto:Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl">mailto:Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl</a>]
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<b>Envoyé :</b> jeudi 8 octobre 2015 11:18<br>
<b>À :</b> Tijani BEN JEMAA;
<a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org">wp1@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [WP1] Budget<br>
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Tijani,<br>
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Somewhere in June, I wrote on this subject:<br>
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"Like I said this morning: if the community has to have it’s veto of
the budget legally enforced, the disconnect between the board and the
community is so complete, that the board would have to (be forced to)
resign. So there’s no need at all for a condition that the mechanism
should deliver full authority on the budget."<br>
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I am still of that opinion. If the community has the (enforceable) power
to dismiss the board or part thereof, it has the ultimate power to steer
any (important) process<br>
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Best,<br>
<br>
Roelof<br>
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<b>From:
</b><<a href="mailto:wp1-bounces@icann.org">wp1-bounces@icann.org</a>
> on behalf of Tijani BEN JEMAA
<<a href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@fmai.org.tn">
tijani.benjemaa@fmai.org.tn</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>dinsdag 6 oktober 2015 20:19<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org">wp1@icann.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org">wp1@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[WP1] Budget<br>
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Jordan and all,<br>
<br>
As promised during the last call, here is my take regarding the community
power about the budget:<br>
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I notice that we are much more focusing on the Budget veto after its
adoption by the board than on the involvement of the community in the
budget development.<br>
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Since few years , Xavier formed a community ad hoc group to discuss the
budget preparation from the planning till the last public comment period
before transmitting the budget to the board for adoption. This experience
has been improved over the years and now, we have a very good
consultation process that makes the budget almost agreed on by the
community. By the way, the ad hoc group will have a workshop of several
hours in Dublin.<br>
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I think that all of us wish that we will never meet the situation where
an adopted budget is rejected by the community; at least I do. And to
avoid such a situation, I proposed that we formalize the current
consultation, and make it part of the official budget development
process. I find it more important and more constructive to strengthen
this a priori involvement of the community in the budget development. I
know that it was mentioned in our second report, but wasn’t given the
appropriate importance and wasn’t elaborated with sufficient
details.<br>
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I propose that our final report makes this a priori involvement of the
community the main path and the veto, that I hope we will get rid of, the
exceptional and ultimate way.<br>
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<b>Tijani BEN JEMAA<br>
</b>Executive Director<br>
Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (<b>FMAI</b>)<br>
Phone: + 216 41 649 605<br>
Mobile: + 216 98 330 114<br>
Fax: + 216 70 853 376<br>
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