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color:#1F497D'>Roelof,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have the same position. I think the formal a priori involvement
of the community in the budget development would void the need for the budget
veto.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>Tijani BEN JEMAA<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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color:#17365D'>Executive Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De :</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Roelof Meijer
[mailto:Roelof.Meijer@sidn.nl] <br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> jeudi 8 octobre 2015 11:18<br>
<b>À :</b> Tijani BEN JEMAA; wp1@icann.org<br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [WP1] Budget<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Tijani,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Somewhere in June, I wrote on this subject:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>"</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#292834'>Like I said this morning: if the community has to have
it’s veto of the budget legally enforced, the disconnect between the
board and the community is so complete, that the board would have to (be forced
to) resign. So there’s no need at all for a condition that the mechanism
should deliver full authority on the budget."</span><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I<span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'> am still of that opinion. If the community has the
(enforceable) power to dismiss the board or part thereof, it has the ultimate
power to steer any (important) process</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Roelof<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><<a href="mailto:wp1-bounces@icann.org">wp1-bounces@icann.org</a>>
on behalf of Tijani BEN JEMAA <<a href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@fmai.org.tn">tijani.benjemaa@fmai.org.tn</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>dinsdag 6 oktober 2015 20:19<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org">wp1@icann.org</a>" <<a
href="mailto:wp1@icann.org">wp1@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[WP1] Budget<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#365F91'>Jordan and all,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#365F91'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#365F91'>As promised during the last call, here is my take regarding the
community power about the budget:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#365F91'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#365F91'>I notice that we are much more focusing on the Budget veto after
its adoption by the board than on the involvement of the community in the
budget development.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#365F91'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#365F91'>Since few years , Xavier formed a community ad hoc group to
discuss the budget preparation from the planning till the last public comment
period before transmitting the budget to the board for adoption. This
experience has been improved over the years and now, we have a very good
consultation process that makes the budget almost agreed on by the community.
By the way, the ad hoc group will have a workshop of several hours in Dublin.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#365F91'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#365F91'>I think that all of us wish that we will never meet the
situation where an adopted budget is rejected by the community; at least I do.
And to avoid such a situation, I proposed that we formalize the current
consultation, and make it part of the official budget development process. I
find it more important and more constructive to strengthen this a priori
involvement of the community in the budget development. I know that it was
mentioned in our second report, but wasn’t given the appropriate
importance and wasn’t elaborated with sufficient details.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#365F91'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#365F91'>I propose that our final report makes this a priori involvement
of the community the main path and the veto, that I hope we will get rid of,
the exceptional and ultimate way.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#17365D'>Tijani BEN JEMAA</span></b><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#17365D'>Executive Director</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#17365D'>Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations </span><span
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