<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">This is not a "new diverting point". &nbsp;Our very own public comment analysis document says there is no consensus on this issue and it needs to be explored. &nbsp;See below from our analysis.<div><br></div><div>When will that discussion happen?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Robin</div><div><br></div><div><div><u>









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<h2><a name="_Toc306234322">Areas of Concern/Divergence</a><o:p></o:p></h2><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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     tab-stops:list .5in;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Arial">Lack of consensus on whether the community
     should take decisions through formal voting or through establishing
     consensus.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ul><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;
text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
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     tab-stops:list .5in;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Arial"><b>Lack of consensus on the voting allocations
     between SOs and ACs. &nbsp;Comments expressed concern for “dilution and
     authority and influence of SO community”.&nbsp;Most commenters on this
     issue expressed support for voting allocations along the lines of ICANN’s
     existing board structure.<o:p></o:p></b></span></li>
</ul><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;
text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Arial"><o:p><b>&nbsp;</b></o:p></span></p>

<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
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     tab-stops:list .5in;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Arial"><b>Lack of consensus on the composition of the
     community within the Model (e.g. role of Advisory Committees).&nbsp;Comments
     indicated concern over the possible “duality” of the governmental role in
     the Model. Several comments expressed concern that providing votes to GAC
     will fail to meet NTIA requirements.</b><o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ul><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;
text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
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     tab-stops:list .5in;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Arial">Comments expressed concern over the extent of
     changes required in ICANN’s structure with the model.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ul><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;
text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
 <li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo15;
     tab-stops:list .5in;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Arial">Proposal that enforceability for narrowed
     community powers could be provided for by binding arbitration to enforce
     fundamental bylaws, instead of the CMSM Model.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ul><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;
text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<h2><a name="_Toc306234323">Options for CCWG Consideration</a><o:p></o:p></h2><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;
mso-list:l17 level1 lfo21;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:
Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:Arial">Continue to evolve SMM to address specific points of
concern raised in public comment, while maintaining “membership” model.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;
text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;
mso-list:l17 level1 lfo21;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:
Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:Arial">Explore how maximum legal enforcement can be achieved
for desired community powers under an empowered designator model for
comparison.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;
text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;
text-autospace:none"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span style="font-family:Arial">Sub-Issues within the Models:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;
text-autospace:none"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span style="font-family:Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></b></p>

<ol style="margin-top:0in" start="1" type="1">
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     tab-stops:list .5in;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Arial">Single Member and Single Designator Models<o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ol><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-left:.75in;mso-add-space:auto;
text-indent:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo22;mso-layout-grid-align:
none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Arial;
mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">a.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:Arial">Voting or consensus basis; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:1.25in;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-1.25in;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;
mso-list:l4 level2 lfo22;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:
Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span>i.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:Arial">Move away from
“voting” and towards “consensus” for decision-making purposes within the
community mechanism.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:1.25in;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-1.25in;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;
mso-list:l4 level2 lfo22;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:
Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span>ii.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:Arial">Consider
community powers only may be exercised by the community as a whole, based on
consensus or near consensus of the whole of it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:1.25in;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-1.25in;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;
mso-list:l4 level2 lfo22;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:
Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span>iii.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:Arial">Consider option
of consensus definition depending on absence of recommendations or advice
against when using community powers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:1.25in;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-1.25in;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;
mso-list:l4 level2 lfo22;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:
Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span>iv.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:Arial">Consider option
of consensus definition depending on absence of recommendations or advice
against.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:.75in;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo22;
mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><b><span style="font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:
Ignore">b.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><!--[endif]--></b><span style="font-family:Arial"><b>Reconsider role of the ACs in the Model’s community
forum. &nbsp;Should some ACs be non-voting / decisional and rather, advisory
only? </b><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:.75in;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo22;
mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><b><span style="font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:
Ignore">c.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><!--[endif]--></b><span style="font-family:Arial"><b>Reconsider voting allocations between SOs-ACs to be
more in-line with balance of appointments to ICANN board.</b><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:.75in;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo22;
mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:
Ignore">d.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:Arial">Consideration of advice from those SOs and ACs opting
out of the decision-making mechanism;• <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:.75in;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo22;
mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:
Ignore">e.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:Arial">Maintaining balance of power to prevent capture of/by
those opting-in to the decision-making mechanism;• <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:.75in;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo22;
mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:
Ignore">f.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:Arial">Factoring in
conflicts of interest and fiduciary or other responsibilities (such as public
interest) into the decision-making design;• <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left:.75in;mso-add-space:auto;
text-indent:-.25in;mso-pagination:none;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo22;mso-layout-grid-align:
none;text-autospace:none"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family:Arial;
mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">g.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family:Arial">Ensuring accountability of the new structure to the
broader community and the global public interest.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;
text-autospace:none"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><br></font></p></u></div><div><b><br></b></div><div><div>On Oct 21, 2015, at 2:24 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear All,</div><div>There is no intention to provide voting power to ACs .What we discussing is that they continue to provide advice in favour or against a given issue that advice is understood to be given after reaching consensus .</div><div>I do not understand some colleagues attempting to&nbsp; bring new diverting points</div><div>Let us to find out how we could bring ourselves closer to each other.</div><div>This type of comments do not help</div><div>Regards</div><div>Kavouss &nbsp;</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-10-21 11:14 GMT+02:00 Grace Abuhamad <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org" target="_blank">grace.abuhamad@icann.org</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><div>Robin’s email is the same as always. We are looking into the issue.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><span><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0in 0in;text-align:left;color:black;font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> &lt;<a href="mailto:acct-staff-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">acct-staff-bounces@icann.org</a>&gt; on behalf of Dr Eberhard W Lisse &lt;<a href="mailto:epilisse@gmail.com" target="_blank">epilisse@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wednesday, October 21, 2015 at 9:59 AM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Robin Gross &lt;<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>&gt;, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía &lt;<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>&gt;<br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> ACCT-Staff &lt;<a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org" target="_blank">acct-staff@icann.org</a>&gt;, "<a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org" target="_blank">wp1@icann.org</a>" &lt;<a href="mailto:wp1@icann.org" target="_blank">wp1@icann.org</a>&gt;, Accountability Cross Community &lt;<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>&gt;<br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [Acct-Staff] [CCWG-ACCT] [WP1] There is no consensus on the role of Advisory Committees according to our own public comment paper which analyzed public comment<br></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><div><div name="messageBodySection">Didn't she weite she used a different email address?<br><br>
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On 21 Oct 2015, 09:57 +0100, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía &lt;<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx" target="_blank">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>&gt;, wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Staff,
<div><br></div><div>Can you please check why some emails are not getting to the list?</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>León</div></div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>El 21/10/2015, a las 9:52 a.m., Robin Gross &lt;<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" target="_blank">robin@ipjustice.org</a>&gt; escribió:</div><br><div><div style="-ms-word-wrap: break-word;"><div>Resending, since my email is NOT posting to the list:</div><div><br></div><div>[...]</div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></span></div>
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