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I agree with Robin and Becky - this kind of transparency is
fundamental.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/22/2015 5:06 PM, Robin Gross
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:D4CC77F4-A8A5-4F74-A4D3-EACB76535D77@ipjustice.org"
type="cite">Indeed requiring explanations for all key decisions is
critical to ICANN's general accountability. In the recent .africa
case, the IRP panel declared GAC should have provided a rationale
for its objection and that the board had a duty of diligence to
examine that reason. These are fundamental concepts in good
governance and absolutely appropriate for enhancing ICANN's
accountability to the public it serves.
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<div>Robin<br>
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<div>On Jul 22, 2015, at 8:48 AM, Burr, Becky wrote:</div>
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<div>Actually, I don’t think that it is too much to
ask the GAC to provide a reason for its Advice.
It need not disclose truly private information –
but without a basic explanation, how can ICANN
enter into a reasonable discussion to arrive at a
mutually agreeable solution? And how can members
of the community understand whether or not there
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>RE:
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
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color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">FWIW, I have been
reflecting on the “with explanation”
requirement in the second of these items
below and I think I am increasingly somewhat
sympathetic to those who oppose this
requirement – especially in the GAC (for
whom I generally have no great sympathy
</span><span
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);">). Reflecting on public policy
requirements I can at least imagine some
plausible scenarios where a government (or
many governments) might wish to avoid having
to say publicly what they know to be true
privately. These can range from diplomatic
reasons of creative ambiguity to perhaps
even the possession of confidential
information about an issue that is
sufficient to raise concern, but not
disclosable. At least in situations where
the recommendation is by a large consensus,
we might be comfortable with the idea that
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general skepticism of unexplained
decisionmaking, but even some colleagues in
whom I repose some trust have suggested that
explaining everything may be a bit of
overkill. Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Mathieu Weill [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 22, 2015
6:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Burr, Becky; Robin Gross<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wp2@icann.org">wp2@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WP2] slightly
revised mission, commitments, core
values for discussion later today<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal">Dear WP2 colleagues,<br>
<br>
I want to thank all of you for trying very
hard to find agreement on all these topics. I
appreciate how everyone is keeping an open
mind.
<br>
<br>
I may have missed this in the discussions but
what is the rationale for inserting the words
"within their respective jurisdictions" in
Core Value 7 (ex-11). I remember we had some
pushback on this in Paris.
<br>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:
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remaining rooted in the [private sector],
including business stakeholders, civil
society, the technical community, and
academia, recognizing that governments and
public authorities are responsible for
public policy <u>within their respective
jurisdictions</u> and duly taking into
account the public policy advice of
governments and public authorities </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><br>
The proposed addition in Article XI of the
sentence below is also attracting some
pushback.
<br>
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<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal">or where the Advisory
Committee has not explained the specific
reason(s) for its advice.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">My personal view
is that it may not be most appropriate to have
this criteria in the same sentence and at the
same level as "not exceeding the Mission".
<br>
<br>
I also wonder whether we could find ATRT
agreed language on the provision of rationales
in support of advice. It seemed to me that
these reviews had contributed to significant
improvements in that regard and the use of
"agreed language" often helps when time is
short. <br>
<br>
Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div class="MsoNormal">Le 21/07/2015 20:43,
Burr, Becky a écrit :<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal">Whoops, apologies
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at
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<b>To: </b>Becky Burr <<a
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<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [WP2] slightly
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<div class="MsoNormal">Looks good - except
it is missing the critical word of
"not". So it should read:
<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt">[...] </span></i><i><span
style="font-size:9.0pt;color:red">ICANN
shall have no authority to act or
refrain from acting in response to
<s><span
style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">input</span></s><span
style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow"> advice</span> from an
Advisory Committee where such
advice would require ICANN to
exceed its Mission or violate
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<div class="MsoNormal">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal">Robin<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal">On Jul 21,
2015, at 11:30 AM, Burr, Becky
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