<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The issue of what happens to the IRP time period if the potential Complainant requests a CEP is handled in the CEP rules and procedures, found at <a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/cep-11apr13-en.pdf">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/cep-11apr13-en.pdf</a>:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="times new roman, serif" size="4">If ICANN and the requestor have not agreed to a resolution of issues upon the
conclusion of the cooperative engagement process, or if issues remain for a request for independent review, the requestor’s time to file a request for independent
review designated in the Bylaws shall be extended for each day of the cooperative
engagement process, but in no event, absent mutual written agreement by the
parties, shall the extension be for more than fourteen (14) days.</font><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The issue of "knowledge" (or "awareness") is often dealt with as Bruce suggests -- by requiring either "actual knowledge" (when the complainant actually knew) or "constructive knowledge" (when the complainant reasonably should have known). If either of these time periods expires, the complainant can't bring an action.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Burr, Becky <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>The more I think about this 30 day thing, the more concerned I get – we need to provide for tolling the period for the pre filing mediation/CEP</div><div><div class="h5">
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Bruce Tonkin <<a href="mailto:Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au" target="_blank">Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 3:31 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a href="mailto:WP2@icann.org" target="_blank">WP2@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:WP2@icann.org" target="_blank">WP2@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [WP2] current state of IRP checklist plus sample bylaws language and the comment summary<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hello Becky,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">The proposed bylaws language change with respect to the timing of an IRP proceeding:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">“A request for
</span><span style="font-family:Avenir-Book,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">A request for independent review must be filed within thirty days of
</span><s><span style="font-family:Avenir-Book,sans-serif;color:red">the posting<u></u><u></u></span></s></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><s><span style="font-family:Avenir-Book,sans-serif;color:red">of the minutes of the Board meeting (and the accompanying Board Briefing<u></u><u></u></span></s></p>
</span><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><s><span style="font-family:Avenir-Book,sans-serif;color:red">Materials, if available) that</span></s><span style="font-family:Avenir-Book,sans-serif;color:red"></span><span style="font-family:Avenir-Book,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">the
requesting party </span><span style="font-family:Avenir-Book,sans-serif;color:red">becoming aware of the action<u></u><u></u></span></p><span class="">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Avenir-Book,sans-serif;color:red">that it
</span><span style="font-family:Avenir-Book,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">contends demonstrates that ICANN violated its Bylaws or Articles of<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Avenir-Book,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Incorporation. Consolidated requests may be appropriate when the causal<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:Avenir-Book,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">connection between the circumstances of the requests and the harm is the same<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Avenir-Book,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">for each of the requesting parties.”<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Avenir-Book,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">How would you determine when a “requesting party” becomes aware of an action? I expect it would be hard to determine when that event would happen – so this
feels a little like that a party can file at any time after a decision – potentially years later. This could have quite negative effect on a third party. E.g if a new gTLD was allocated to an applicant, and then the requesting party complains years later.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Avenir-Book,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Shouldn’t there be some limit based on what is reasonable – e.g 30 days after the requesting party would reasonably become aware … etc<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Avenir-Book,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Alternatively – maybe leave the current language and increase the time period – e.g. from 30 to 60 or 90 days.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Avenir-Book,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Avenir-Book,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Bruce Tonkin</span><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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