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While I do not think this is exactly the sort of agreement about
which I am positing, I would draw your attention to the recent
China-Russian declaration of April 30. <br>
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A rough translation is attached. <span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><font
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official announcement that is on the Russian government web
site says:<br>
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"The directive approves a draft Russian-Chinese
intergovernmental agreement on cooperation in ensuring
international information security (hereinafter, the
Agreement).<br>
The Agreement aims to create a legal and organisational
framework for Russian-Chinese cooperation in promoting
international information security.<br>
The Agreement identifies the principal threats and determines
the main areas, principles, forms and mechanisms of
cooperation in this area.<br>
The Russian Foreign Ministry has been tasked with conducting
talks with the Chinese side and, after coming to terms,
signing this Agreement on behalf of the Russian Government.<br>
The Agreement reflects Russia’s interests and position
regarding the provision of international information security
and consolidates Russian-Chinese strategic partnership, and
its signing will help to promote mutually beneficial
cooperation between Russia and China."<br>
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<u><b>Three main issues in the agreement</b></u><br>
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1. the document is signed, because the parties are concerned
about using the ICT for “undermining the sovereignty and the
security of the states, and interference in their internal
affairs… destabilization of internal political and
social-economic environment…” <br>
2. The two governments confirm that "the national sovereignty
and the international norms and regulations, result from this
sovereignty, are defining the countries' behavior within the
framework of their activities, connected to the use of ICT and
the jurisdiction of the nation states over the information
infrastructure on their territories, as well as the state has
a sovereign right to define and to implement governmental
policy, related to the information-telecommunication network
"Internet" (everywhere in the original they call it like
that), including security,<br>
3. The two governments aim at creating a multilateral,
democratic and transparent international system for management
of the information-telecommunication network ‘Internet’ with
the purpose of internationalization of the management of the
Internet, and to make sure states have equal rights to
participate in this process, including democratic management
(governance) of the Internet core resources and their fair
distribution.</span>.</small></big><br>
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Previously such agreements have been of significance for ICANN as
part of the political environment in which it has to operate. But
it has been committed to its global mission. Is the amendment to
the bylaws inadvertantly making it an internal governance matter for
ICANN?<br>
<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/30/15 3:55 AM, Paul Twomey wrote:<br>
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+1 to Malcolm's comment on how much has been achieved.<br>
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I am sorry that I was not able to attend Paris, but may I ask a
question about the amendment including international conventions
in:<br>
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lang="EN-US">1.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>In
performing its Mission, ICANN must operate in a manner
consistent with its Bylaws for the benefit of the Internet
community as a whole, carrying out its activities in
conformity with relevant principles of international law,
international conventions, and applicable local law and
through open and transparent processes that enable competition
and open entry in Internet-related markets. Specifically,
ICANN’s action must:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Did the group consider the situation where two or more
authoritarian countries sign an international statement or
convention recognizing that the DNS in their countries can only be
coordinated by their country institutions or worse recognizing
that it can only be done by multilateral organizations etc.
Would this constitute an "international convention" - a much less
universal term than "international law" - and hence would ICANN be
bound by this bylaw to recognize this? Hence not be able to run a
complete Root Zone in the IANA, not be able to enter into
registrar contracts for registrars in those countries etc.<br>
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Paul
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/29/15 8:25 PM, Malcolm Hutty
wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Becky,
These papers looks very good, and shows how much we have achieved. We
seem to be just about done, so congratulations.
I can find on the paper just one note of disagreement still being
recorded, relating to the appointment of the IRP Provider.
* Greg had proposed that the appointment process be conducted by ICANN
and the community jointly.
* I had said I thought that this was likely to be unworkable, and that
it would be sufficient to have ICANN consult the community on the terms
of the tender process, but selection itself should be by ICANN.
Where did we get to on this? I remember a back-and-forth between me and
Greg on this list, but don't remember it being discussed by the group.
-> If it hasn't been decided by WP2 collectively, may I ask that you
test the group's opinion as to whether they prefer my approach or Greg's?
-> If it has been decided and I just missed it, and the collective view
was to prefer Greg's proposal, you may remove the footnote noting my
disagreement: it is not my view that this is such a serious issue that I
would want to preserve my objection as a minority statement to go into
the Final Report for Public Comment.
Kind Regards,
Malcolm.
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