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Hi Sebastien<br>
<br>
I agree with other members of Wp3 on our last meeting that the
geographic diversity is only a priority for our work in the next
couple of weeks in ensuring that the customer review bodies etc of
the IANA transition model are forced to be geographically diverse in
their make-up.<br>
<br>
But the bigger strategic issue of ICANN always pushing itself to be
reflective of the Global Internet Community, including
geographically, as you point out has not had a time frame put on
it. I think the work of the WG upto June 2013 was fine in its own
context - but that context was limited. I am not against the Board
acting on the WG recommendations, but I do worry that will be seen
as the end of the matter - while I think it is only the
beginning. And I am worried that we have little time to get ahead
of this issue before it comes up on us.<br>
<br>
I am interested to hear others' thoughts as to how we get this issue
on the practical agenda for action.<br>
<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/9/15 2:13 AM, Sébastien Bachollet
wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Paul,</div>
<div>As you know</div>
<div>" the ICANN Board at
its Public Meeting in Cairo (November 2008)7
, authorized the formation of the
proposed working group. The Board subsequently approved the
Working Group’s
Charter on 26 June 2009. »</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The world has change since 2008/2009 and even since the
publication of the final report of the WG in June 2013.</div>
<div>ICANN is doing SO/AC reviews within a certain time frame.
The same for AoC reviews.</div>
<div>This one (one of the few with global remit) as no
timeframe.</div>
<div>It is time for the Board to act diligently on the
improvement proposed in this document.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>But we may also add this review in the regular ones or
add this issue as an additional topic in another one already
discuss (like ATRT for example).</div>
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<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="rgb(0, 0, 0)"><font
class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Sébastien
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date : </span> mercredi 8
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<span style="font-weight:bold">À : </span> <<a
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Alice Jansen <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Objet : </span> Re: [Wp3]
Final Report by ICANN Geographic Regions Review Working Group<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi Alice<br>
<br>
I would also note that the working group responded to the
task it was given by the Board:
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"The Working Group was formed by the Board to <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:17.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;
mso-ansi-language:EN-AU">(1) identify the different
purposes for which ICANN’s Geographic Regions are
used; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:17.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;
mso-ansi-language:EN-AU">(2) determine whether the
uses of ICANN’s Geographic Regions (as currently
defined, or at all) continue to meet <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:17.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;
mso-ansi-language:EN-AU">the requirements of the
relevant stakeholders; and <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:17.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;
mso-ansi-language:EN-AU">(3) submit proposals for
community and Board consideration relating to the
current and future uses and definition of the ICANN
Geographic Region"<br>
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There was no real discussion of the global strategic
challenges facing ICANN in a world where Internet
activity and power is shifting dramatically away from
the hubs of the late 1990s which underlie ICANN's
present structures.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
The sections on page 15 talking about change in number
of regions say to reduce the number would be too
burdensome on travel for some members of the community
and to increase them will increase the costs of the
support. Hardly a strategic analysis.<br>
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I think this issue is a very important one for the
strategic viability of ICANN and for that matter the
general acceptance of a single Root.<br>
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Paul<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
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73, 125);">Hi Alice,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
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73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">I have a couple of questions regarding
this report.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
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73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span
style="font-style: normal; font-variant:
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The report
is dated June 2013 and it refers to the ICANN
Durban meeting. Could you clarify what has been
done since Durban?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span
style="font-style: normal; font-variant:
normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt;
line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New
Roman';"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Your note
mentioned: “It is intended that the report will be
submitted to the Board prior to the Dublin
meeting.” Could you clarify if the following steps
stated at para #87 on page 24 of the report have
been completed. If not, what are the time lines
for those:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-family: ArialMT, serif;">“Before these
recommendations can be formally transmitted to the
ICANN Board,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-family: ArialMT, serif;">the next step
in this process consists of a final community
review of the Final<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-family: ArialMT, serif;">Report
document and its recommendations by ICANN’s
various SO-AC structures.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-family: ArialMT, serif;">Footnote 15
above outlines the specific process steps for this
review and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-family: ArialMT, serif;">consideration
of the Working Group recommendations. The Working
Group has<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none"><span
style="font-family: ArialMT, serif;">determined
that community review should extend for a full 90
calendar days after<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-family: ArialMT, serif;">the
conclusion of the ICANN Public Meeting in Durban.”</span><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Pam Little<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:
10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,
sans-serif;"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:wp3-bounces@icann.org">wp3-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:wp3-bounces@icann.org">mailto:wp3-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alice Jansen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:wp3@icann.org">wp3@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Wp3] Final Report by ICANN
Geographic Regions Review Working Group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Dear
all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Further
to the request made on call #1, please find
below the link to the Final Report prepared by
ICANN Geographic Regions Review Working Group
for consideration by the ICANN Board (June
2013): <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/geo-regions-final-report-22jun13-en.pdf">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/geo-regions-final-report-22jun13-en.pdf</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">It
is intended that the report will be submitted to
the Board prior to the Dublin meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Please
note that this document has been added to your
WP3 reading list - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Reading+List">https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Reading+List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">May
I also take this opportunity to inform you that
three dedicated wiki pages have been created for
all three subgroups. These pages will be the
repositories for volunteers, documents and
reading lists.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Diversity - <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Diversity">https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Diversity</a><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">SO/AC
accountability - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=53783727">https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=53783727</a><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Staff
accountability - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Staff+accountability">https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Staff+accountability</a><o:p></o:p></span></li>
</ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Kind
regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Alice <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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Managing Director
Argo P@cific
US Cell: +1 310 279 2366
Aust M: +61 416 238 501
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