[Wp4] Notes-Recordings-Transcript links for WP4 Meeting | 28 August

Wed Sep 2 05:19:05 UTC 2015

Dear Matthew,

I have just sent the link to the document. My apologies for the delay.

Best regards,

León

> El 01/09/2015, a las 10:33, Matthew Shears <mshears at cdt.org> escribió:
> 
> Hi - we had discussed on the call last week the possibility of using some space such as google doc for us to be able to work more iteratively on language.  Could someone provide an update - thanks.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> On 8/28/2015 4:31 PM, Nigel Roberts wrote:
>> Unfortunately I was unable to make today's call due to meetings at work taking priority.
>> 
>> I note the considerable progress from the notes, and look forward to working with you towards the end goal.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Nigel
>> 
>> On 28/08/15 16:14, Brenda Brewer wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> The notes, recordings and transcripts for the WP-4 meeting  on 28 August
>>> will be available here: https://community.icann.org/x/J4RYAw
>>> 
>>> A copy of the notes and action items may be found below.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Brenda
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    *Action Items*
>>> 
>>> *ACTION ITEM: Check wording and implications of without reservation*
>>> 
>>> *- Without reservation does not encourage legal liability. We are making
>>> it complicated. Let's favor simple statements. *
>>> 
>>> *ACTION ITEM: Leon to refine high level drafting to reflect today's
>>> discussion and to begin working on explanatory note to document how WP4
>>> reached this wording. *
>>> 
>>> *- Commitment to human rights won't cause any court cases if all this
>>> would be carefully further formulated in policies.*
>>> 
>>> *ACTION ITEM: Share progress report with Subgroup to incorporate any
>>> additional feedback there may be*
>>> 
>>> *ACTION ITEM: Leon to set up google doc*
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    *Notes*
>>> 
>>> David McAuley on phone.
>>> 
>>> Review of Draft High Level Objective
>>> 
>>> WP4 discussed proposal received on list to modify text to not restrict
>>> it to United Nations
>>> 
>>> _Feedback:_
>>> 
>>> - Suggest defining high level commitment along the lines of what we have
>>> discussed for WS1 and fleshing it out as part of Work Stream 2.
>>> 
>>> - We need to refine wording put together.
>>> 
>>> - Do not understand that we give support without reservation to United
>>> Nations principles. It would be better to confirm support for
>>> International Human Rights and leave it to WS2 to define what we are
>>> going to use to operationalize that (UN compact, etc). Open it up to
>>> wider set of documents
>>> 
>>> - Suggested language: HEREBY AFFIRMS its support without reservation for
>>> internationally recognized fundamental human rights, and intends to
>>> develop .....
>>> 
>>> --> Concerned about support without reservation. What could that imply?
>>> It could be a point of discussion for the group
>>> 
>>> - Stick to paragraph 151
>>> 
>>> - Do not think putting commitment to human rights will be risk of law
>>> suit for ICANN
>>> 
>>> - Need to explore options and caveats around meaning of without
>>> reservations
>>> 
>>> - Without reservation is superfluous
>>> 
>>> ACTION ITEM: Check wording and implications of without reservation
>>> 
>>> - Without reservation does not encourage legal liability. We are making
>>> it complicated. Let's favor simple statements.
>>> 
>>> ACTION ITEM: Leon to refine high level drafting to reflect today's
>>> discussion and to begin working on explanatory note to document how WP4
>>> reached this wording.
>>> 
>>> - Commitment to human rights won't cause any court cases if all this
>>> would be carefully further formulated in policies.
>>> 
>>> --> We have common understanding that it would not be opening door to
>>> lawsuits
>>> 
>>> ACTION ITEM: Share progress report with Subgroup to incorporate any
>>> additional feedback there may be
>>> 
>>> ACTION ITEM: Leon to set up google doc
>>> 
>>> - What is the procedure to reach consensus/what are the next steps?
>>> 
>>> --> Within 1 or 2 calls, we could have product for group to review/discuss
>>> 
>>> - is there any use in possibly looking at slightly rewording article 4
>>> of the articles of incorporation to make a more explicit reference to HR?
>>> 
>>> --> That is a possibility.
>>> 
>>> - Changing the art of incorporation entails another process (and was not
>>> included in draft report of CCWG)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    *Documents Presented*
>>> 
>>> ·Human Rights subgroup timeline_24 Aug.pdf
>>> <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/56132647/Human%20Rights%20subgroup%20timeline_24%20Aug.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1440772825330&api=v2> 
>>> 
>>> ·Human Rights Briefing_Discussion paper (1).pdf
>>> <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/56132647/Human%20Rights%20Briefing_Discussion%20paper%20%281%29.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1440772776026&api=v2> 
>>> 
>>> 
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