[Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN

Wed Dec 21 07:57:04 UTC 2016

Hi all,

I fully support the points raised by Pam. This highlights the risks 
associated with the creation of categories, which are not always a good 
proxy to some aspects of diversity. Since it is practically impossible to 
rely on a very large number of similar definitions for categories, one way 
to mitigate this risk is to provide the datasets in an “Open Data”( 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_data) format.

Best

Mathieu

De : Pam Little [mailto:pam.little at zodiac-corp.com]
Envoyé : mardi 20 décembre 2016 23:02
À : 'Mathieu Weill'; ws2-diversity at icann.org
Cc : 'MSSI Secretariat'; 'Ergys Ramaj'
Objet : RE: [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at 
ICANN

While these additional data points are welcome, I would like to bring to 
this group’s attention the Final Report of the recent GSNO Review 
(https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2015-09-15-en).

Specifically, the reports:

·         cautions that geographic diversity is not a proxy for cultural 
diversity  (pp 11 and 114).

·         questions whether, from a cultural perspective, it is appropriate 
to include Australia and New Zealand as part of the Asia Pacific region (pp 
115-116).

The report points out, as at July 2013, people from Asia made up 48% of 
total Internet users but only 4% of GNSO Council positions came from Asia 
( p.116).

Page 114

9.4.1

Geographic Diversity

It is not possible to be definitive about the geographic diversity of the 
membership of the GNSO, firstly because ICANN does not collect comprehensive 
statistics on geographic (or gender and cultural) diversity of its 
community. It does collect geographic diversity information, but we consider 
the criterion to be flawed, since people can state their place of residence 
regardless of their ethnicity or actual affinity (for example, an Australian 
national living in Nigeria could choose to be recorded as a member from 
Africa). Secondly, Constituency and SG membership consists in many cases of 
organisations and/or individuals. Organisations may themselves be based in 
one region but consist of individuals from many. We believe, as explained 
further below, that CANN’s geographic regions are a poor measure of cultural 
or ethnic diversity.

Pages 115 & 116

9.4.2

Cultural Diversity

…

Under ICANN’s current definition, Asia Pacific includes Australia and New 
Zealand which are in general culturally more similar to North America and 
parts of Europe than to most Asian cultures. …

It is my understanding that ICANN’s current geographical regions are 
inconsistent with international norms. However, the ICANN Geographic Regions 
Review Working Group (see Final Report at 
http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-22jun13-en.htm) has 
not proposed any change to regional designation. As former ICANN CEO, Dr. 
Paul Twomey laments ( 
<http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/wp3/2015-July/000015.html> 
http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/wp3/2015-July/000015.html):

“There was no real discussion of the global strategic challenges facing 
ICANN in a world where Internet activity and power is shifting dramatically 
away from the hubs of the late 1990s which underlie ICANN's present 
structures.”

From: ws2-diversity-bounces at icann.org 
[mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Mathieu Weill
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:27 AM
To: Ergys Ramaj
Cc: MSSI Secretariat; ws2-diversity at icann.org
Subject: Re: [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at 
ICANN

Thanks Ergys, great work, I think this really demonstrates that a 
recommendation from this group to maintain and track such data is realistic 
and accessible.

Best

Mathieu

De : Ergys Ramaj [mailto:ergys.ramaj at icann.org]
Envoyé : mardi 20 décembre 2016 14:07
À : Mathieu Weill
Cc : Rafik Dammak; ws2-diversity at icann.org; MSSI Secretariat
Objet : Re: [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at 
ICANN

Dear Mathieu,

The SO/AC leadership data includes:

ASO Council Chair and Vice Chairs, Address Council Members, ccNSO Council 
Chairs and Vice Chairs, ccNSO Council Members, GNSO Council Chair and Vice 
Chairs, GNSO Council Members, ALAC Leadership Team, ALAC Members, GAC 
Leadership Team, RSSAC Chairs, SSAC Chair and Vice Chair, AFRALO Leadership, 
APRALO Leadership, EURALO Leadership, LACRALO Leadership, NARALO Leadership, 
Registries Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Registrars Stakeholder 
Group Executive Committee, Commercial Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, 
Non- Commercial Stakeholder Group Executive Committee, Business Constituency 
Executive Committee, Intellectual Property Constituency Executive Committee, 
Internet Service Providers and Connectivity Providers Constituency Executive 
Committees, Non-Commercial Users Constituency Executive Committee, and 
Not-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency Executive Committee.

More generally and to the data collection method question you pose, 
different groups within ICANN organization collect data related to their 
function. E.g. the meetings team on ICANN meetings, Human Resources on 
personnel, etc.

To get a full picture, we'd reached out to      the respective teams and 
collated the information. As noted on the deck, data points are identified 
using the most appropriate resources available, which are often based on 
self-reporting or selection. 

The question on having additional data that includes diversity markers other 
than gender and region is a bit trickier as different groups capture 
different elements.

Happy to discuss and update the slides with an appendix that includes a 
breakdown for SO/AC leadership and any other group, as appropriate.

Best,

Ergys

On Dec 20, 2016, at 5:52 AM, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr> wrote:

Thank you Rafik,

It is very encouraging to see this new publication from ICANN. Indeed it 
would be great to invite the DPRD to a call to fully understand the figures, 
how they were collected and whether there is room for further breakdowns.

I would be interested, for instance, to understand the definition used for 
“ICANN leadership”.

Best

Mathieu

De : ws2-diversity-bounces at icann.org 
[mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces at icann.org] De la part de Rafik Dammak
Envoyé : mardi 20 décembre 2016 02:22
À : ws2-diversity at icann.org
Cc : MSSI Secretariat
Objet : [Ws2-diversity] Existing Gender and Regional Diversity Data at ICANN

Hi everyone,

please find attached this document shared by Development and Public 
Responsibility Department (DPRD) including several diversity data they 
collected.

I think we can count on DPRD as resource for our subgroup.

Best,

Rafik

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