[Ws2-diversity] Draft 01 Diversity Report

Tue Feb 21 09:10:57 UTC 2017

Just to clarify: I was not supporting the formulation persé, I was
wondering that if it is kept, whether that was the right place to do it. It
seemed more like a general comment, which pertains to all the elements of
diversity rather than one which applies only to the point of skills. It is
the traditional way in which those who perpetuate the status quo always
argue against the diverse candidate: "they just don't have the
skills/experience/background".  It will be comforting to those who do not
yet see the value of diversity, but I would be more in favor of trying to
socialize the concept with those people, so that resistance becomes
negligible.
It is up to the community to decide whether and when skills trump
diversity, but I generally agree with those who have said that this is a
false dichotomy.
On a personal note, I can tell you from long experience I have often seen
very competent women bypassed for top jobs, with the arguments that they
lack the skill set. I see the risk for abuse of this "escape clause ".
I do not think anyone is advocating for an incompetent person from for
example an underrepresented region/gender to take a leadership position. If
opponents starts to hammer the competence/skills argument, it can be
helpful to call this out.
The fact is that we either have enough competent people or we should be
educating and grooming enough people in the pipeline so that any gap is
temporary and this will become a mute point in the future (perhaps we can
make this explicit in the document?)
In this regard I believe the document can be very helpful: it will
encourage the clear measurement and reporting of diversity throughout the
organization, board and the community. Once we have identified where the
gaps are we can make sure we put resources in those areas to make sure the
"argument" of lack of qualified/skilled people becomes irrelevant.
Hoping to see many of you in Copenhagen!
Lousewies

……
Sent from my phone.
Lousewies van der Laan

On 16 Feb 2017, at 13:56, Fiona Asonga <fasonga at kixp.or.ke> wrote:

Dear Mathieu

Thanks for the feedback. I agree that the increased diversity can actually
expand the diversity of skills within ICANN but the pair of the
conversation we haven't yet considered is the kind of skills that would
constitutes skills diversity. Would it be based purely on work experience
or academic qualifications or a combination of both? Both you and Lousewies
raise important discussion points and look forwards to further discussions.

Kind regards

Fiona Asonga

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*From: *"Mathieu Weill" <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>
*To: *"Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>, "Lousewies Vanderlaan" <
lousewies.vanderlaan at board.icann.org>
*Cc: *ws2-diversity at icann.org
*Sent: *Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:19:16 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ws2-diversity] Draft 01 Diversity Report

Dear Colleagues,

I apologize for not being able to make many of the calls, but congratulate
the group on the progress on the document.

I did post a comment on the Gdoc, about the following sentence :

“While acknowledging the importance of diversity in the accountability
mechanisms, members of WS2 have expressed their view that diversity
requirement should not prevail over skills or experience requirements.”

Lousewies was supporting the formulation, and I understand where she’s
coming from on that, but I personally have an issue with it : it implies
that there is a mutually exclusive choice to be made between skills on the
one side, diversity on the other. I do not share this view. I contend that
increased diversity would actually expand the diversity of skills within
ICANN.

What do other group members think about it ?

Whatever the outcome of this discussion, it would be useful to detail
exactly what kind of skills we want to look at in terms of skills
diversity. Is it legal / technical / market ? Others ?

Best

Mathieu

*De :* ws2-diversity-bounces at icann.org [
mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces at icann.org <ws2-diversity-bounces at icann.org>] *De
la part de* Rafik Dammak
*Envoyé :* mardi 14 février 2017 01:03
*À :* Lousewies Vanderlaan
*Cc :* ws2-diversity at icann.org
*Objet :* Re: [Ws2-diversity] Draft 01 Diversity Report

Dear Lousewies,

Thanks for the comments!

I moved the document to this google doc so everyone can comment
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ziy7NDZZd9bW08HOxY-CYUx3qQdno5i9Rqp4fOJtAT0
, the previous document was in word format . it is in suggestion mode, so
you can propose edits and changes.

I encourage all members of the subgroup to go through the document and add
their suggestions. we will add other parts in coming days.

Best,

Rafik

2017-02-12 5:33 GMT+09:00 Lousewies Vanderlaan <
lousewies.vanderlaan at board.icann.org>:

Dear all,
Congratulations on a strong first draft.  As you know, as board liaison I
have been mostly observing, but I have taken the liberty to make some small
comments in the document in a personal capacity.  Hope its useful.
I look forward to seeing many of you in Copenhagen.
best, Lousewies

> On 10 Feb 2017, at 17:23, Fiona Asonga <fasonga at kixp.or.ke> wrote:
>
> Hallo All
>
> Please find on the link below the first draft of the diversity report
with consolidated views that have bee shared and discussed so far on
diversity.
>
>
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzFxffuM3Hx_dUV1OWc0cDg5QWc/view?usp=sharing
>
> Since the discussion on the Global Accounts is still ongoing we have
considered the input but would like another round of discussion on the same.
>
> Please feel free to share your feedback and edits to the document.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Fiona and Rafik
>
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