<div dir="auto">Hello Avri,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I do think the proportion of skills/experience would be more in regions with higher Internet penetration than those with lower penetration.</div><div dir="auto">In context of DNS, I think it's logical that there will be more skilled/experienced people in regions with more Registry/Registrar organisation.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So I think applying skill/experience in diversity should not be based solely on people with "higher" skill/experience rating - inessence skills/experience should be applied in regional context if those two items would play a role in ensuring true diversity.<br><br>Regards<br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Sent from my LG G4<br>Kindly excuse brevity and typos</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 22, 2017 14:28, "avri doria" <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
I disagree that skills and experience are mainly of the Global North. I<br>
think that misses the point that diversity is an essential element of<br>
skills and experience.<br>
<br>
avri<br>
<br>
On 22-Feb-17 04:35, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:<br>
> Thank you Avri for summarizing the discussion on skills in the<br>
> Diversity Sub-Group.<br>
><br>
> I agree that diversity requirement should not prevail over skills or<br>
> experience requirements.<br>
> But I don’t think that skills and experience are elements of<br>
> diversity, and find this concept dangerous for the diversity; In fact,<br>
> as everyone knows, skills and experience are mostly present in the<br>
> north and if they are taken as elements of diversity, the whole<br>
> diversity will be flooded and we will end up with the same case of a<br>
> large majority from the north and almost none from the south.<br>
><br>
> In my opinion, the choice should be done according to the skill and<br>
> experience without using very narrow criteria, and in the pool of<br>
> those skilled persons, we have to apply the diversity rules.<br>
><br>
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> Executive Director<br>
> Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*)<br>
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><br>
><br>
>> Le 22 févr. 2017 à 05:43, avri doria <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>>> a écrit :<br>
>><br>
>> Hi.<br>
>><br>
>> I did take a try in the doc at including this idea.<br>
>><br>
>> **<br>
>><br>
>> *2.6 Skills: A variety of skill is important since it is a reflection of<br>
>> the diverse skill set available within the ICANN Community.While<br>
>> acknowledging the importance of diversity in the accountability<br>
>> mechanisms, some members of WS2 have expressed their view that diversity<br>
>> requirement should not prevail over skills or experience requirements,<br>
>> but should be an equivalent factor. Others have argued that skills and<br>
>> experience are elements of diversity. Whether diversity is an essential<br>
>> element of skills and experience or skill and experience are elements of<br>
>> diversity ensuring that ICANN is open to diverse participation is<br>
>> essential to fulfilling the range of skills and experience necessary for<br>
>> ICANN. If an original assessment of candidates is not sufficiently<br>
>> diverse to fulfill the skill, experience and diversity requirements<br>
>> necessary, then efforts need to be redoubled until diversity is<br>
>> achieved..*<br>
>><br>
>> **<br>
>><br>
>> avri<br>
>><br>
>> On 21-Feb-17 18:32, Rafik Dammak wrote:<br>
>>> Hi,<br>
>>><br>
>>> just to add that during the last call<br>
>>> (<a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=64068802" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/<wbr>pages/viewpage.action?pageId=<wbr>64068802</a>),<br>
>>> we had consensus around the proposal from Avri and that is currently<br>
>>> in the document, and getting more input on it.<br>
>>> @Julie can you please send/add a text around your suggestion i.e.<br>
>>> diversity in skill sets?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Best,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Rafik<br>
>>><br>
>>> 2017-02-22 7:43 GMT+09:00 Julie Hammer <<a href="mailto:julie.hammer@bigpond.com">julie.hammer@bigpond.com</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:julie.hammer@bigpond.com">julie.hammer@bigpond.<wbr>com</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:julie.hammer@bigpond.com">julie.hammer@bigpond.<wbr>com</a>>>:<br>
>>><br>
>>> *(To Secretariat Staff: would you please release this email to<br>
>>> the list. I do not have posting rights. Many thanks.)*<br>
>>><br>
>>> Also to add to Lousewies’s point and to clarify what I was saying<br>
>>> on the call: I was suggesting that we shouldn’t be representing<br>
>>> this as skills OR diversity, but rather diversity IN skills sets<br>
>>> ie. listing skills as an element of diversity means that we should<br>
>>> be seeking to have a diversity of (relevant) skills in whatever<br>
>>> context we are discussing. In Lousewies’s example, I think that<br>
>>> the argument "they just don't have the<br>
>>> skills/experience/background” should be turned around on those<br>
>>> proposing it by highlighting and advocating the advantages of<br>
>>> having diversity IN the skills set. Different people have<br>
>>> different skills and I suggest that all situations/groups benefit<br>
>>> from having a range of skills available.<br>
>>><br>
>>> So that is the focus that I was trying to suggest we have in the<br>
>>> paragraph in question.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I also look forward to seeing everyone in Copenhagen.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Cheers, Julie<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 21 Feb 2017, at 7:10 PM, Lousewies Vanderlaan<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org">lousewies.vanderlaan@board.<wbr>icann.org</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org">lousewies.vanderlaan@<wbr>board.icann.org</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org">lousewies.vanderlaan@<wbr>board.icann.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Just to clarify: I was not supporting the formulation persé, I was<br>
>>> wondering that if it is kept, whether that was the right place to<br>
>>> do it. It seemed more like a general comment, which pertains to<br>
>>> all the elements of diversity rather than one which applies only<br>
>>> to the point of skills. It is the traditional way in which those<br>
>>> who perpetuate the status quo always argue against the diverse<br>
>>> candidate: "they just don't have the<br>
>>> skills/experience/background". It will be comforting to those who<br>
>>> do not yet see the value of diversity, but I would be more in<br>
>>> favor of trying to socialize the concept with those people, so<br>
>>> that resistance becomes negligible.<br>
>>> It is up to the community to decide whether and when skills trump<br>
>>> diversity, but I generally agree with those who have said that<br>
>>> this is a false dichotomy.<br>
>>> On a personal note, I can tell you from long experience I have<br>
>>> often seen very competent women bypassed for top jobs, with the<br>
>>> arguments that they lack the skill set. I see the risk for abuse<br>
>>> of this "escape clause ".<br>
>>> I do not think anyone is advocating for an incompetent person from<br>
>>> for example an underrepresented region/gender to take a leadership<br>
>>> position. If opponents starts to hammer the competence/skills<br>
>>> argument, it can be helpful to call this out.<br>
>>> The fact is that we either have enough competent people or we<br>
>>> should be educating and grooming enough people in the pipeline so<br>
>>> that any gap is temporary and this will become a mute point in the<br>
>>> future (perhaps we can make this explicit in the document?)<br>
>>> In this regard I believe the document can be very helpful: it will<br>
>>> encourage the clear measurement and reporting of diversity<br>
>>> throughout the organization, board and the community. Once we have<br>
>>> identified where the gaps are we can make sure we put resources in<br>
>>> those areas to make sure the "argument" of lack of<br>
>>> qualified/skilled people becomes irrelevant.<br>
>>> Hoping to see many of you in Copenhagen!<br>
>>> Lousewies<br>
>>><br>
>>> ……<br>
>>> Sent from my phone.<br>
>>> Lousewies van der Laan<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 16 Feb 2017, at 13:56, Fiona Asonga <<a href="mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke">fasonga@kixp.or.ke</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke">fasonga@kixp.or.ke</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke">fasonga@kixp.or.ke</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Dear Mathieu<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thanks for the feedback. I agree that the increased diversity can<br>
>>>> actually expand the diversity of skills within ICANN but the pair<br>
>>>> of the conversation we haven't yet considered is the kind of<br>
>>>> skills that would constitutes skills diversity. Would it be based<br>
>>>> purely on work experience or academic qualifications or a<br>
>>>> combination of both? Both you and Lousewies raise important<br>
>>>> discussion points and look forwards to further discussions.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Kind regards<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Fiona Asonga<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> ------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>------------<br>
>>>> *From: *"Mathieu Weill" <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a><wbr>><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a><wbr>>><br>
>>>> *To: *"Rafik Dammak" <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><wbr>><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><wbr>>>, "Lousewies Vanderlaan"<br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org">lousewies.vanderlaan@board.<wbr>icann.org</a><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org">lousewies.vanderlaan@<wbr>board.icann.org</a>><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org">lousewies.vanderlaan@<wbr>board.icann.org</a>>><br>
>>>> *Cc: *<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org">ws2-diversity@icann.org</a><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org">ws2-diversity@icann.<wbr>org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org">ws2-diversity@icann.<wbr>org</a>><br>
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:19:16 PM<br>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ws2-diversity] Draft 01 Diversity Report<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Dear Colleagues,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I apologize for not being able to make many of the calls, but<br>
>>>> congratulate the group on the progress on the document.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I did post a comment on the Gdoc, about the following sentence :<br>
>>>> “While acknowledging the importance of diversity in the<br>
>>>> accountability mechanisms, members of WS2 have expressed their<br>
>>>> view that diversity requirement should not prevail over skills or<br>
>>>> experience requirements.”<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Lousewies was supporting the formulation, and I understand where<br>
>>>> she’s coming from on that, but I personally have an issue with it<br>
>>>> : it implies that there is a mutually exclusive choice to be made<br>
>>>> between skills on the one side, diversity on the other. I do not<br>
>>>> share this view. I contend that increased diversity would<br>
>>>> actually expand the diversity of skills within ICANN.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> What do other group members think about it ?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Whatever the outcome of this discussion, it would be useful to<br>
>>>> detail exactly what kind of skills we want to look at in terms of<br>
>>>> skills diversity. Is it legal / technical / market ? Others ?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Best<br>
>>>> Mathieu<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> *De :* <a href="mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org">ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org">ws2-diversity-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org">ws2-diversity-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>><br>
>>>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org">ws2-diversity-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org">ws2-diversity-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>>] *De la part de* Rafik<br>
>>>> Dammak<br>
>>>> *Envoyé :* mardi 14 février 2017 01:03<br>
>>>> *À :* Lousewies Vanderlaan<br>
>>>> *Cc :* <a href="mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org">ws2-diversity@icann.org</a><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org">ws2-diversity@icann.<wbr>org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org">ws2-diversity@icann.<wbr>org</a>><br>
>>>> *Objet :* Re: [Ws2-diversity] Draft 01 Diversity Report<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Dear Lousewies,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thanks for the comments!<br>
>>>> I moved the document to this google doc so everyone can<br>
>>>> comment <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ziy7NDZZd9bW08HOxY-CYUx3qQdno5i9Rqp4fOJtAT0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/<wbr>1ziy7NDZZd9bW08HOxY-<wbr>CYUx3qQdno5i9Rqp4fOJtAT0</a><br>
>>>> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ziy7NDZZd9bW08HOxY-CYUx3qQdno5i9Rqp4fOJtAT0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/<wbr>1ziy7NDZZd9bW08HOxY-<wbr>CYUx3qQdno5i9Rqp4fOJtAT0</a>><br>
>>>> ,<br>
>>>> the previous document was in word format . it is in suggestion<br>
>>>> mode, so you can propose edits and changes.<br>
>>>> I encourage all members of the subgroup to go through the<br>
>>>> document and add their suggestions. we will add other parts in<br>
>>>> coming days.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Best,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Rafik<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 2017-02-12 5:33 GMT+09:00 Lousewies Vanderlaan<br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org">lousewies.vanderlaan@board.<wbr>icann.org</a><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org">lousewies.vanderlaan@<wbr>board.icann.org</a>><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org">lousewies.vanderlaan@<wbr>board.icann.org</a>>>:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Dear all,<br>
>>>> Congratulations on a strong first draft. As you know, as board<br>
>>>> liaison I have been mostly observing, but I have taken the<br>
>>>> liberty to make some small comments in the document in a personal<br>
>>>> capacity. Hope its useful.<br>
>>>> I look forward to seeing many of you in Copenhagen.<br>
>>>> best, Lousewies<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> On 10 Feb 2017, at 17:23, Fiona Asonga <<a href="mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke">fasonga@kixp.or.ke</a><br>
>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke">fasonga@kixp.or.ke</a>><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke">fasonga@kixp.or.ke</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Hallo All<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Please find on the link below the first draft of the diversity<br>
>>>> report with consolidated views that have bee shared and discussed<br>
>>>> so far on diversity.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzFxffuM3Hx_dUV1OWc0cDg5QWc/view?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/file/<wbr>d/0BzFxffuM3Hx_<wbr>dUV1OWc0cDg5QWc/view?usp=<wbr>sharing</a><br>
>>>> <<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzFxffuM3Hx_dUV1OWc0cDg5QWc/view?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/<wbr>file/d/0BzFxffuM3Hx_<wbr>dUV1OWc0cDg5QWc/view?usp=<wbr>sharing</a>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Since the discussion on the Global Accounts is still ongoing we<br>
>>>> have considered the input but would like another round of<br>
>>>> discussion on the same.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Please feel free to share your feedback and edits to the document.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Kind regards<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Fiona and Rafik<br>
>>>>><br>
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