<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Everyone,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My thinking aligns with Avri’s here. I had been thinking of skills in a very broad way, not just technical skills, and so I had viewed that seeking diversity in skills allowed for a much more inclusive approach. I think it is highly likely that our and Tijani’s sentiments are aligned, but that we are looking at this issue from different perspectives and so we think we are disagreeing.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I had seen Avri’s amendment to para 2.6 and thought her words were good; hence why I did not offer any alternate words. However, reacting to Rafik’s request for me to also provide input, I would like to offer the following as an alternate para 2.6 for consideration:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><font color="#0433ff" class="">2.6 <b class="">Skills:</b> Diversity in skills contributes to the quality of ICANN policy formulation, decision making and outreach. It is important to highlight and advocate the advantages of individuals bringing different and diverse skills sets into ICANN's many activities. All activities and groups within ICANN will benefit from having a diverse range of skills available. Outcomes formulated from diverse skills and knowledge will have higher probability of being accepted by a diverse community. Achieving diversity in skills should not be seen as a choice between skills and diversity which excludes participation, but rather one which values many skills sets and facilitates inclusion and broad participation. </font></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers, Julie</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">On 23 Feb 2017, at 9:15 AM, avri doria <<a href="mailto:avri@apc.org" class="">avri@apc.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Hi,<br class=""><br class="">That may the case with some technical skills, but even then I would not<br class="">doubt that there are technically skilled people in the South. But in<br class="">policy that requires an understanding of more that just the technical<br class="">details, there is no way the the north understands or is more skilled<br class="">than the South. As for any of the other skills like organizational,<br class="">economic or law, North, South East or West, seem to be equally skilled<br class="">and experienced, especially when it comes to specialized knowledge about<br class="">these things in their regions.<br class=""><br class="">avri<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 22-Feb-17 10:43, Seun Ojedeji wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hello Avri,<br class=""><br class="">I do think the proportion of skills/experience would be more in<br class="">regions with higher Internet penetration than those with lower<br class="">penetration.<br class="">In context of DNS, I think it's logical that there will be more<br class="">skilled/experienced people in regions with more Registry/Registrar<br class="">organisation.<br class=""><br class="">So I think applying skill/experience in diversity should not be based<br class="">solely on people with "higher" skill/experience rating - inessence<br class="">skills/experience should be applied in regional context if those two<br class="">items would play a role in ensuring true diversity.<br class=""><br class="">Regards<br class="">Sent from my LG G4<br class="">Kindly excuse brevity and typos<br class=""><br class="">On Feb 22, 2017 14:28, "avri doria" <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" class="">avri@acm.org</a><br class=""><<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" class="">mailto:avri@acm.org</a>>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""> Hi,<br class=""><br class=""> I disagree that skills and experience are mainly of the Global<br class=""> North. I<br class=""> think that misses the point that diversity is an essential element of<br class=""> skills and experience.<br class=""><br class=""> avri<br class=""><br class=""> On 22-Feb-17 04:35, Tijani BEN JEMAA wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Thank you Avri for summarizing the discussion on skills in the<br class="">Diversity Sub-Group.<br class=""><br class="">I agree that diversity requirement should not prevail over skills or<br class="">experience requirements.<br class="">But I don’t think that skills and experience are elements of<br class="">diversity, and find this concept dangerous for the diversity; In<br class=""></blockquote> fact,<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">as everyone knows, skills and experience are mostly present in the<br class="">north and if they are taken as elements of diversity, the whole<br class="">diversity will be flooded and we will end up with the same case of a<br class="">large majority from the north and almost none from the south.<br class=""><br class="">In my opinion, the choice should be done according to the skill and<br class="">experience without using very narrow criteria, and in the pool of<br class="">those skilled persons, we have to apply the diversity rules.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">*Tijani BEN JEMAA*<br class="">Executive Director<br class="">Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*)<br class="">Phone: +216 98 330 114 <<a href="tel:%2B216%2098%20330%20114" class="">tel:%2B216%2098%20330%20114</a>><br class=""> +216 52 385 114 <<a href="tel:%2B216%2052%20385%20114" class="">tel:%2B216%2052%20385%20114</a>><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Le 22 févr. 2017 à 05:43, avri doria <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" class="">avri@acm.org</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" class="">mailto:avri@acm.org</a>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" class="">mailto:avri@acm.org</a> <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" class="">mailto:avri@acm.org</a>>>> a écrit :<br class=""><br class="">Hi.<br class=""><br class="">I did take a try in the doc at including this idea.<br class=""><br class="">**<br class=""><br class="">*2.6 Skills: A variety of skill is important since it is a<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote> reflection of<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">the diverse skill set available within the ICANN Community.While<br class="">acknowledging the importance of diversity in the accountability<br class="">mechanisms, some members of WS2 have expressed their view that<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote> diversity<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">requirement should not prevail over skills or experience<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote> requirements,<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">but should be an equivalent factor. Others have argued that<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote> skills and<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">experience are elements of diversity. Whether diversity is an<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote> essential<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">element of skills and experience or skill and experience are<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote> elements of<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">diversity ensuring that ICANN is open to diverse participation is<br class="">essential to fulfilling the range of skills and experience<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote> necessary for<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">ICANN. If an original assessment of candidates is not sufficiently<br class="">diverse to fulfill the skill, experience and diversity requirements<br class="">necessary, then efforts need to be redoubled until diversity is<br class="">achieved..*<br class=""><br class="">**<br class=""><br class="">avri<br class=""><br class="">On 21-Feb-17 18:32, Rafik Dammak wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hi,<br class=""><br class="">just to add that during the last call<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> (<a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=64068802" class="">https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=64068802</a><br class=""> <<a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=64068802" class="">https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=64068802</a>>),<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">we had consensus around the proposal from Avri and that is<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> currently<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">in the document, and getting more input on it.<br class="">@Julie can you please send/add a text around your suggestion i.e.<br class="">diversity in skill sets?<br class=""><br class="">Best,<br class=""><br class="">Rafik<br class=""><br class="">2017-02-22 7:43 GMT+09:00 Julie Hammer<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:julie.hammer@bigpond.com" class="">julie.hammer@bigpond.com</a> <<a href="mailto:julie.hammer@bigpond.com" class="">mailto:julie.hammer@bigpond.com</a>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><<a href="mailto:julie.hammer@bigpond.com" class="">mailto:julie.hammer@bigpond.com</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:julie.hammer@bigpond.com" class="">mailto:julie.hammer@bigpond.com</a>>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><<a href="mailto:julie.hammer@bigpond.com" class="">mailto:julie.hammer@bigpond.com</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:julie.hammer@bigpond.com" class="">mailto:julie.hammer@bigpond.com</a>>>>:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""> *(To Secretariat Staff: would you please release this email to<br class=""> the list. I do not have posting rights. Many thanks.)*<br class=""><br class=""> Also to add to Lousewies’s point and to clarify what I was<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> saying<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> on the call: I was suggesting that we shouldn’t be<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> representing<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> this as skills OR diversity, but rather diversity IN skills<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> sets<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> ie. listing skills as an element of diversity means that we<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> should<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> be seeking to have a diversity of (relevant) skills in whatever<br class=""> context we are discussing. In Lousewies’s example, I<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> think that<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> the argument "they just don't have the<br class=""> skills/experience/background” should be turned around on those<br class=""> proposing it by highlighting and advocating the advantages of<br class=""> having diversity IN the skills set. Different people have<br class=""> different skills and I suggest that all situations/groups<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> benefit<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> from having a range of skills available.<br class=""><br class=""> So that is the focus that I was trying to suggest we have<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> in the<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> paragraph in question.<br class=""><br class=""> I also look forward to seeing everyone in Copenhagen.<br class=""><br class=""> Cheers, Julie<br class=""><br class=""> On 21 Feb 2017, at 7:10 PM, Lousewies Vanderlaan<br class=""> <<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org" class="">lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org" class="">mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org</a>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org" class="">mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org" class="">mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org</a>>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> <<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org" class="">mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org" class="">mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org</a>>>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""> Just to clarify: I was not supporting the formulation<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> persé, I was<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> wondering that if it is kept, whether that was the right<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> place to<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> do it. It seemed more like a general comment, which pertains to<br class=""> all the elements of diversity rather than one which applies<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> only<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> to the point of skills. It is the traditional way in which<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> those<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> who perpetuate the status quo always argue against the diverse<br class=""> candidate: "they just don't have the<br class=""> skills/experience/background". It will be comforting to<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> those who<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> do not yet see the value of diversity, but I would be more in<br class=""> favor of trying to socialize the concept with those people, so<br class=""> that resistance becomes negligible.<br class=""> It is up to the community to decide whether and when skills<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> trump<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> diversity, but I generally agree with those who have said that<br class=""> this is a false dichotomy.<br class=""> On a personal note, I can tell you from long experience I have<br class=""> often seen very competent women bypassed for top jobs, with the<br class=""> arguments that they lack the skill set. I see the risk for<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> abuse<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> of this "escape clause ".<br class=""> I do not think anyone is advocating for an incompetent<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> person from<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> for example an underrepresented region/gender to take a<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> leadership<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> position. If opponents starts to hammer the competence/skills<br class=""> argument, it can be helpful to call this out.<br class=""> The fact is that we either have enough competent people or we<br class=""> should be educating and grooming enough people in the<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> pipeline so<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> that any gap is temporary and this will become a mute point<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> in the<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> future (perhaps we can make this explicit in the document?)<br class=""> In this regard I believe the document can be very helpful:<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> it will<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> encourage the clear measurement and reporting of diversity<br class=""> throughout the organization, board and the community. Once<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> we have<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> identified where the gaps are we can make sure we put<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> resources in<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> those areas to make sure the "argument" of lack of<br class=""> qualified/skilled people becomes irrelevant.<br class=""> Hoping to see many of you in Copenhagen!<br class=""> Lousewies<br class=""><br class=""> ……<br class=""> Sent from my phone.<br class=""> Lousewies van der Laan<br class=""><br class=""> On 16 Feb 2017, at 13:56, Fiona Asonga <<a href="mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke" class="">fasonga@kixp.or.ke</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke" class="">mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke</a>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><<a href="mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke" class="">mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke</a> <<a href="mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke" class="">mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke</a>>><br class=""> <<a href="mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke" class="">mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke</a> <<a href="mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke" class="">mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke</a>>>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> Dear Mathieu<br class=""><br class=""> Thanks for the feedback. I agree that the increased<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> diversity can<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> actually expand the diversity of skills within ICANN but<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> the pair<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> of the conversation we haven't yet considered is the kind of<br class=""> skills that would constitutes skills diversity. Would it<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> be based<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> purely on work experience or academic qualifications or a<br class=""> combination of both? Both you and Lousewies raise important<br class=""> discussion points and look forwards to further discussions.<br class=""><br class=""> Kind regards<br class=""><br class=""> Fiona Asonga<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> *From: *"Mathieu Weill" <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" class="">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" class="">mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" class="">mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a> <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" class="">mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>>><br class=""> <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" class="">mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr" class="">mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>>>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> *To: *"Rafik Dammak" <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" class="">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" class="">mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" class="">mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" class="">mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>><br class=""> <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" class="">mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" class="">mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>>>, "Lousewies Vanderlaan"<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> <<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org" class="">lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org" class="">mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org</a>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org" class="">mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org" class="">mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org</a>>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> <<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org" class="">mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org" class="">mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org</a>>>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> *Cc: *<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org" class="">ws2-diversity@icann.org</a> <<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org" class="">mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org</a>><br class=""><<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org" class="">mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org" class="">mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org</a>>> <<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org" class="">mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org</a><br class=""> <<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org" class="">mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org</a>>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:19:16 PM<br class=""> *Subject: *Re: [Ws2-diversity] Draft 01 Diversity Report<br class=""><br class=""> Dear Colleagues,<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> I apologize for not being able to make many of the calls, but<br class=""> congratulate the group on the progress on the document.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> I did post a comment on the Gdoc, about the following<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> sentence :<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> “While acknowledging the importance of diversity in the<br class=""> accountability mechanisms, members of WS2 have expressed their<br class=""> view that diversity requirement should not prevail over<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> skills or<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> experience requirements.”<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> Lousewies was supporting the formulation, and I understand<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> where<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> she’s coming from on that, but I personally have an issue<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> with it<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> : it implies that there is a mutually exclusive choice to<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> be made<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> between skills on the one side, diversity on the other. I<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> do not<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> share this view. I contend that increased diversity would<br class=""> actually expand the diversity of skills within ICANN.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> What do other group members think about it ?<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> Whatever the outcome of this discussion, it would be useful to<br class=""> detail exactly what kind of skills we want to look at in<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> terms of<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> skills diversity. Is it legal / technical / market ? Others ?<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> Best<br class=""> Mathieu<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> *De :* <a href="mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org" class="">ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org" class="">mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org</a>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org" class="">mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org" class="">mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org</a>>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> <<a 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href="mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org" class="">mailto:ws2-diversity-bounces@icann.org</a>>>] *De la part de* Rafik<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> Dammak<br class=""> *Envoyé :* mardi 14 février 2017 01:03<br class=""> *À :* Lousewies Vanderlaan<br class=""> *Cc :* <a href="mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org" class="">ws2-diversity@icann.org</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org" class="">mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org</a>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org" class="">mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org" class="">mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org</a>>> <<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org" class="">mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org</a><br class=""> <<a href="mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org" class="">mailto:ws2-diversity@icann.org</a>>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> *Objet :* Re: [Ws2-diversity] Draft 01 Diversity Report<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> Dear Lousewies,<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> Thanks for the comments!<br class=""> I moved the document to this google doc so everyone can<br class=""> comment<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ziy7NDZZd9bW08HOxY-CYUx3qQdno5i9Rqp4fOJtAT0" class="">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ziy7NDZZd9bW08HOxY-CYUx3qQdno5i9Rqp4fOJtAT0</a><br class=""> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ziy7NDZZd9bW08HOxY-CYUx3qQdno5i9Rqp4fOJtAT0" class="">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ziy7NDZZd9bW08HOxY-CYUx3qQdno5i9Rqp4fOJtAT0</a>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ziy7NDZZd9bW08HOxY-CYUx3qQdno5i9Rqp4fOJtAT0" class="">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ziy7NDZZd9bW08HOxY-CYUx3qQdno5i9Rqp4fOJtAT0</a><br class=""> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ziy7NDZZd9bW08HOxY-CYUx3qQdno5i9Rqp4fOJtAT0" class="">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ziy7NDZZd9bW08HOxY-CYUx3qQdno5i9Rqp4fOJtAT0</a>>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">,<br class=""> the previous document was in word format . it is in suggestion<br class=""> mode, so you can propose edits and changes.<br class=""> I encourage all members of the subgroup to go through the<br class=""> document and add their suggestions. we will add other parts in<br class=""> coming days.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> Best,<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""> Rafik<br class=""><br class=""> 2017-02-12 5:33 GMT+09:00 Lousewies Vanderlaan<br class=""> <<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org" class="">lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org" class="">mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org</a>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org" class="">mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org" class="">mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org</a>>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> <<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org" class="">mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org" class="">mailto:lousewies.vanderlaan@board.icann.org</a>>>>:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""> Dear all,<br class=""> Congratulations on a strong first draft. As you know, as<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> board<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> liaison I have been mostly observing, but I have taken the<br class=""> liberty to make some small comments in the document in a<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> personal<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> capacity. Hope its useful.<br class=""> I look forward to seeing many of you in Copenhagen.<br class=""> best, Lousewies<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 10 Feb 2017, at 17:23, Fiona Asonga <<a href="mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke" class="">fasonga@kixp.or.ke</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke" class="">mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke</a>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><<a href="mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke" class="">mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke</a> <<a href="mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke" class="">mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke</a>>><br class=""></blockquote> <<a href="mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke" class="">mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke</a> <<a href="mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke" class="">mailto:fasonga@kixp.or.ke</a>>>><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">Hallo All<br class=""><br class="">Please find on the link below the first draft of the diversity<br class=""></blockquote> report with consolidated views that have bee shared and<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> discussed<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""> so far on diversity.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzFxffuM3Hx_dUV1OWc0cDg5QWc/view?usp=sharing" class="">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzFxffuM3Hx_dUV1OWc0cDg5QWc/view?usp=sharing</a><br class=""> <<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzFxffuM3Hx_dUV1OWc0cDg5QWc/view?usp=sharing" class="">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzFxffuM3Hx_dUV1OWc0cDg5QWc/view?usp=sharing</a>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> <<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzFxffuM3Hx_dUV1OWc0cDg5QWc/view?usp=sharing" class="">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzFxffuM3Hx_dUV1OWc0cDg5QWc/view?usp=sharing</a><br class=""> <<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzFxffuM3Hx_dUV1OWc0cDg5QWc/view?usp=sharing" class="">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzFxffuM3Hx_dUV1OWc0cDg5QWc/view?usp=sharing</a>>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">Since the discussion on the Global Accounts is still ongoing we<br class=""></blockquote> have considered the input but would like another round of<br class=""> discussion on the same.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">Please feel free to share your feedback and edits to the<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote> document.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">Kind regards<br class=""><br class="">Fiona and Rafik<br class=""><br class="">--<br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Ws2-diversity mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Ws2-diversity@icann.org" class="">Ws2-diversity@icann.org</a> <<a href="mailto:Ws2-diversity@icann.org" 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