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<p>Dear Daniel,<br>
<br>
I would rather disagree with broadening the view that much. <br>
<br>
First of all, there are other documents from CCWG than define the
tasks of this group, than only the bylaw text. In particular,
Annex 06 (p. 2) of the CCWG-Accountability Supplemental Final
Proposal on Work Stream 1 Recommendations report, that was
approved, says: <br>
<br>
"Include the following in Work Stream 2 activities:<br>
- Develop an <u>FOI-HR for the Human Rights Bylaw</u>"
(underlined by me). <br>
<br>
The drafters of the CCWG report could have been of course more
specific and put the wording "FoI for the HR Bylaw" everywhere,
but I think it actually never dawned on them that there will be a
discussion on broadening the scope of the FoI that much. At least
the wording of the Annex 6 (and Annex 12 about WS2) indicates that
it's a FoI for bylaw and not for the whole human rights impact
assessment (HRIA) within ICANN. <br>
<br>
Secondly, even a mere interpretation of the bylaw will require a
lot of analysis of what you refer to, but extending the work of
this group to the whole HRIA is outside of our mandate I think.
There was a report of the Cross-community working party for human
rights (which is not the part of the work of this CCWG) prepared
for the ICANN meeting in Dublin that actually showed that the full
HRIA, though might be a desirable option, is a time- and
resources-consuming process and might be recommended only in a
long-term. We can of course consider recommending ICANN to carry
out a HRIA as a part of the FoI, why not, but doing the whole
assessment on our own, in this group, rather looks like an
impossible task - both in terms of resources and mandate. <br>
<br>
I think the work of this group should definitely focus on the
bylaw interpretation at the moment, because we do have to agree on
what the bylaw means first before we will make any further
recommendations.<br>
<br>
warm regards<br>
Tatiana </p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/09/16 20:36, Daniel Appelman
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org">ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org">mailto:ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Aikman-Scalese, Anne<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ws2-hr@icann.org">ws2-hr@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ws2-hr] When should ICANN uphold
human rights?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Whatever
we do, we can't create gTLD policy. We can (and indeed
must) provide guidance in how the Bylaw should be
interpreted by those engaged in gTLD policy
development. But the policy development process cannot
take place here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">We
also should not be creating procedural mechanisms for
when a Human Rights impact evaluation is triggered. Nor
should we even be the one to create or mandate a human
rights impact evaluation. Again, we should provide
guidance in how the Bylaw should be interpreted by those
who might consider whether to create such mechanisms or
evaluations, and those who create them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">We
need to stick to our mandate, which is to provide a
Framework of Interpretation for the Bylaw. To my mind,
this essentially means "annotating" the Bylaw, with what
amount to a series of footnotes, so that the language
used will be used consistently by groups that come after
this one.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><br>
Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 2:04 PM,
Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com" target="_blank">AAikman@lrrc.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Protection
of registrant data is certainly important. This was
studied for quite a long time by the Expert Working
Group on WhoIs and is now the subject of a GNSO
Policy Development Process. As I understand it, the
new framework for Directory Registry Services
essentially proposes a “need to know” threshold
test. I think it would be naïve for this Workstream
2 group to hold that Human Rights (in the form of
privacy and freedom of expression) were not
considered by the EWG or won’t be considered in the
final outcome of the PDP. In fact, the activities
of these groups with respect to registrant data have
sought to balance two clearly listed Human Rights
guidelines in the UDRP – that is the privacy right
and the rights of authors (i.e. intellectual
property rights).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
don’t think the work done in the FOI for Workstream
2 Human Rights is supposed to trump the policy work
of the GNSO or the public policy advice of the GAC
or the advice of the ALAC. Still not sure, however,
how this Framework of Interpretation for Human
Rights can be considered anything other than new
gTLD policy when applied to ICANN’s new gTLD
activities, including, but not limited to,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">1.</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Award
of registry contracts</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">2.</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Contractual
provisions required in registry (and by implication
registrar) contracts.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">3.</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Adjudication
of Requests for Reconsideration</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">4.</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Adjudication
of complaints filed with ICANN with respect to Spec
11 Public Interest Commitments</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">5.</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Possible
revocation of gTLD contract awards in relation to
registry operators using TLDs for Human Rights abuse
purposes.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Separately,
regarding, for example, UDRP and URS proceedings,
these are not actually activities of ICANN. These
are dispute resolution mechanisms that take place
outside ICANN’s operations and are less directly
implicated in the Human Rights framework than the
activities listed in 1 through 5 above. However,
these are mechanisms developed through the ICANN
Policy Development Process.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As
a practical matter, it would seem that the best this
WS2 team can do is establish a procedural mechanism
for determining when a Human Rights Impact review is
triggered and a process where the Community conducts
such a Human Rights Impact review. This necessarily
would have to correlate with Policy Development. In
the end, the various policy advisory groups may well
disagree as they provide advice to the Board and it
is the Board which makes the final decision, even in
the new Empowered Community model. The Board
receives advice from many different sources. One
such source is the European Commission, whose advice
is one reason this new By-Law exists and one reason
this group exists in WS2.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
only practical way forward from my point of view is
for this group to define criteria as to when a Human
Rights Impact evaluation is triggered and how it
should be conducted within policy-making activities
already going on in the Community. This would
include the five items listed above if indeed we are
to use such general language as is proposed in the
FOI in relation to “respect human rights” in a
manner which requires ICANN to take action to
eliminate or reduce adverse Human Rights impact in
the business relationships and activities with which
it is involved.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
can compare all this to the process in the U.S.
which requires an Environmental Impact Statement as
to various business activities. The criteria for a
Human Rights Impact Statement might be a starting
point. However, in developing such a Human Rights
Impact evaluation, and as agreed in WS1, we cannot
focus on just one or two or three of the relevant
Human Rights. None of the Human Rights documents we
refer to rank these rights in order of priority as
far as I know. The rights of authors and indigenous
peoples I represent are just as important as the
rights of freedom of expression and privacy. In
fact, author’s rights (including the copyright
rights which give the authors the exclusive right to
make changes to their own works) may be equally
important to condemning oppressive governmental
action or exploitation of native culture for
corporate or personal gain. (Why would registrant
information be protected for sellers of fake Navajo
jewelry?)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Again,
by way of SOI disclosure, I represent the Pascua
Yaqui Tribe and my firm represents the Navajo Nation
for certain intellectual property matters. (We
currently have no instructions from either with
respect to participation in ICANN so my views are my
own.) In ICANN’s activities, it appears to me that
a Human Rights Impact analysis is ALWAYS a question
of balancing various Human Rights.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
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href="mailto:ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org"
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target="_blank">ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tijani BEN JEMAA<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 04, 2016 11:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Paul Rosenzweig</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ws2-hr@icann.org"
target="_blank">ws2-hr@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ws2-hr] When should ICANN
uphold human rights?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:120%"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#002E7A">Dear
all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:120%"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002E7A">I
agree with Paul that among the main questions
for us to come up with a Frame of Interpretation
of the Human Rights in the ICANN mission would
be:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002E7A">
What substance we see in the phrase human
rights inside ICANN Mission?</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002E7A">
</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#002E7A"> </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002E7A">When,
if ever, ICANN should give that substance
(whatever it may be) effect?</span><o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:120%"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#002E7A"> </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002E7A">I
can’t say they are the only meaningful questions
since there will be subsequent questions. But
let’s start with the first question: I think
that to address it, we may begin by giving
practical easy cases.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:120%"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002E7A">The
protection of the registrant data is one of the
most obvious case of human right that falls in
the ICANN mission. This may also affect the
ICANN contract with registries/registrars</span><span
style="color:#002E7A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="color:#002E7A"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="color:#365F91">Tijani
BEN JEMAA</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="color:#365F91">Executive
Director</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:#365F91">Mediterranean
Federation of Internet
Associations (<b>FMAI</b>)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="color:#365F91">Phone:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B216%2098%20330%20114"
target="_blank">+216 98 330
114</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="color:#365F91">
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style="color:black"> </span><span
style="color:#365F91"><a
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href="tel:%2B216%2052%20385%20114"
target="_blank">+216 52 385
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Le
4 sept. 2016 à 18:24, Paul Rosenzweig <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com"
target="_blank">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>>
a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Dear
Farzaneh</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Of
course your questions are meaningful.
Indeed, the ONLY two meaningful
questions in this discussion are a)
what substance we see in the phrase
human rights? And b) When, if ever,
ICANN should give that substance
(whatever it may be) effect?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Your
questions clearly go to the later of
these two issues. Members of the
group may disagree on the answers we
reach, but you’re asking questions
that have real meaning – whatever
anyone may say to the contrary.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Paul</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Paul
Rosenzweig</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a
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href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com"
target="_blank"><span
style="color:#0563C1">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">O:
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href="tel:%2B1%20%28202%29%20547-0660"
target="_blank">+1 (202) 547-0660</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">M:
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">My
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">mailto:ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>farzaneh badii<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 4, 2016
11:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kavouss Arasteh <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com"
target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ws2-hr@icann.org"
target="_blank">ws2-hr@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ws2-hr] When
should ICANN uphold human rights?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Calling
something "not meaningful" is very
easy. But it does not devalue its
merits, fortunately. Please provide a
rationale for why the questions are
not meaningful. I don't have to
consult with the co-chairs to discuss
the questions here. If the group feels
that it is unnecessary to discuss
these questions they can simply not
respond, if they feel we should
re-formulate them, then we can. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The
questions are to clarify what we
mean by ICANN should not become a
content regulator. The discussions
that can arise responding to the
question and sub-questions which I
have posted can lead us towards a
more tangible understanding of what
we mean when we say ICANN should not
become a content regulator and
should not go out of its scope and
mission when upholding human
rights. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Best<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Farzaneh <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
4 September 2016 at 17:34, Kavouss
Arasteh <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com"
target="_blank"><span
style="color:purple">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</span></a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dear
All,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
do not understand the meaning
and purpose of these
questions.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Perhaps
the author of the questions
could consult other two co
chairs and come up with
meaningfull text.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We
can not send out these
questions at all<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Reagrds<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Kavouss <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">2016-09-04
14:25 GMT+02:00 farzaneh
badii <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com"
target="_blank"><span
style="color:purple">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</span></a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt">Hi all, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt">Sorry for sending out the questions late. I
wanted to provide
a gist of what we
discussed during
our call and then
provide the
questions but
unfortunately, we
still do not have
the recording.
Below are some
questions for the
group to discuss:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt">Considering ICANN's scope and mission, when
should ICANN
uphold human
rights?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt">- In its consideration to enter into contracts
with registries
and registrars?
(for example, when
they are
considering a new
gTLD application) </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt">- During the contractual relationship with the
registries and the
registrars by
obligating the
registries and
registrars to
enforce human
rights?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt">Best </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:#888888"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:#888888"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:#888888">-- </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:#888888">Farzaneh</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Farzaneh <o:p></o:p></p>
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