<p dir="ltr">FWIW, I like the three focus areas enumerated by John. I think it makes a lot of sense as it's only addressing HR issues during the PDP and not post PDP. In essence, it's only the text of a final policy that implementers would need to comply with and be accountable to. </p>
<p dir="ltr">While I understand that details of this would still need to be fleshed out, a devil that I foresee is when for some reason the HR concerns did not influence a policy proposal before it becomes final, would there be any grounds for HR violation if the policy proceeds? Ofcourse no need to response now but I hope the detailed response of that would result to a NO.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards</p>
<p dir="ltr">Sent from my LG G4<br>
Kindly excuse brevity and typos</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 Sep 2016 9:47 p.m., "John Curran" <<a href="mailto:jcurran@istaff.org">jcurran@istaff.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Anne -<div> </div><div> I believe that we should (at a minimum) seek to improve ICANN’s policy development </div><div> and implementation activities with respect to potential HR issues by: </div><div> </div><div> 1) Clearly defining what HR Convention(s) that will be considered applicable to its activities, </div><div> 2) Provide a straightforward method for any party to raise a concern during the policy </div><div> development process or during any ICANN consultation (to cover operational matters) </div><div> that the intended policy or process would pose a threat to one or more human rights </div><div> contained within the agreed list of HR Conventions, and </div><div> 3) that raising such Human Right concern would in turn require that the final policy or </div><div> process outcome be amended to directly acknowledge the raised concern and either </div><div> include appropriate changes or provide a clear explanation of why the concern is either </div><div> not relevant or is deemed a reasonable balance in light of ICANN’s overall obligations.</div><div><br></div><div> If we do that (and do it well) we will have created an FOI-HR framework that it is both useful</div><div> and yet operating fully within ICANN’s existing mission and mandate. </div><div><br></div><div>/John</div><div><br></div><div>p.s. my views alone - apologies to the electrons who labored to carry these thoughts all</div><div> over the planet. </div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Sep 13, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com" target="_blank">AAikman@lrrc.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Another practical consideration to review as FOI-HR is being developed: Would registries get extra points in the application process for making Human Rights Public Interest Commitments? Does an HR PIC complaint and ICANN’s subsequent determination of whether such HR PIC is being met by the registry put it in the content regulation business?<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I think Andrew pointed out on the call that it is a good idea to consider what we are trying to fix or promote. Does “respect” just mean “avoid adverse impact” or does it mean something more, e.g. “reward positive impact”. Shall we define the word “respect” in the FOI-HR?<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Anne<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-collapse:collapse"><tbody><tr><td width="336" valign="top" style="width:3.5in;padding:0in 5.4pt"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(175,39,47)">Anne E. 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style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><span> </span><a href="mailto:ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:ws2-hr-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a>]<span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Aikman-Scalese, Anne<br><b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Tuesday, September 13, 2016 3:29 PM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span>'Kavouss Arasteh'<br><b>Cc:</b><span> </span><a href="mailto:ws2-hr@icann.org" target="_blank">ws2-hr@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re: [Ws2-hr] Proposed Agenda for call September 13 1900 UTC<u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Dear Kavouss,<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> I do not understand why you object to even discussing the issue of how FOI – HR relates to the Policy Development Process and GAC Policy Advice. If everyone is content to know that the FOI-HR will not apply to any Registry contract prior to development of Consensus Policy via a PDP or Expedited PDP, then that is quite alright with me. I am just pointing out that this is the path we are heading down.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I think it would be smarter to engage stakeholders broadly and earlier – that is, in the form of GAC public policy advice and GNSO guidance (at the very least) in the drafting of the Framework itself. If we do so early on, then a “go-ahead” from the Chartering Organizations will be much easier to obtain later.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">As was pointed out by someone else on the call, we also need to make a recommendation – in the Framework – as to whether or not it may serve as a basis for a Request for Reconsideration or an IRP, which is certainly implied by the drafting in the new By-Laws. Again, I think it would be wiser to obtain GAC public policy advice and GNSO Guidance on this point now rather than later (when we think our work is done.)<span> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">The following tasks are set out for our group:<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span><image003.png></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Anne<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-collapse:collapse"><tbody><tr><td width="336" valign="top" style="width:3.5in;padding:0in 5.4pt"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><b><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(175,39,47)">Anne E. 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Arasteh [<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.<wbr>com</a>]<span> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:48 PM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span>Aikman-Scalese, Anne<br><b>Cc:</b><span> </span>Niels ten Oever;<span> </span><a href="mailto:ws2-hr@icann.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">ws2-hr@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re: [Ws2-hr] Proposed Agenda for call September 13 1900 UTC<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Dear Anne<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">What you are saying may be right but this is outside our terms of reference.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">We have to establish the draft Recommendation(s) on the FOI relating to Human Rights and submit that to CCWG .Once adopted by CCWG then it will be probably put into public comments<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">After the Recommendation(s) are finalized it7 they will be submitted to ICANN and thus it is up to ICANN to deal with that.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Should ICANN decides that parts of all of that should be subject to PDP,it is ICANN decision and policy.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Consequently, we should not be involved in the necessity or otherwise of developing PDP or recommending the need or otherwise of PDP.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Should there be any doubt on that the chair should raise this point at the next meeting of CCWG Plenary.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">In view of the above, I strongly disagree with the inclusion of the item in the agenda as an agreed item<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Regards<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Kavouss <u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">2016-09-13 22:18 GMT+02:00 Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">AAikman@lrrc.com</a>>:<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Having said that Human Rights FOI could be introduced in the Subsequent Procedures PDP currently underway but might happen faster via its own Expedited PDP. This is only important if you want to bind registries. Please note that ICANN applicable law in this regard does not automatically apply to registries.<br><br><span>Anne E. Aikman-Scalese</span><br><span>Of Counsel</span><br><span><a href="tel:520.629.4428" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">520.629.4428</a> office</span><br><span><a href="tel:520.879.4725" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">520.879.4725</a> fax</span><br><span><a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">AAikman@lrrc.com</a></span><br><span>______________________________<wbr>_</span><br><br><span>Lewis Roca Rothgerber Christie LLP</span><br><span>One South Church Avenue, Suite 700</span><br><span>Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611</span><br><span><a href="http://lrrc.com/" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">lrrc.com</a></span><br><br><span>-----Original Message-----</span><u></u><u></u></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">From: Aikman-Scalese, Anne<br>Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:08 PM<br>To: 'Niels ten Oever';<span> </span><a href="mailto:ws2-hr@icann.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">ws2-hr@icann.org</a><br>Subject: RE: [Ws2-hr] Proposed Agenda for call September 13 1900 UTC<br><br>Dear all,<br>I hope that everyone understands that no provision re Human Rights can be added to a Registry Contract unless developed via Consensus Policy. Consensus Policy is a strictly defined term. (These are the only provisions which may be added unilaterally by ICANN.) Further, the ONLY method of developing Consensus Policy is pursuant to either a full Policy Development Process or else an Expedited Policy Development Process.<br><br>So if you think you can adopt a Ruggie principle of ICANN addressing Human Rights in all its business relationships, you must also apply the Ruggie 18 b principle and understand that NO REGISTRY IS BOUND BY ANYTHING OTHER THAN CONSENSUS POLICY (and applicable law of the jurisdiction where the Registry is based.)<br><br>Anne<br><br>Anne E. Aikman-Scalese<br>Of Counsel<br><a href="tel:520.629.4428" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">520.629.4428</a> office<br><a href="tel:520.879.4725" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">520.879.4725</a> fax<br><a href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">AAikman@lrrc.com</a><br>______________________________<wbr>_<br><br>Lewis Roca Rothgerber Christie LLP<br>One South Church Avenue, Suite 700<br>Tucson, Arizona 85701-1611<br><a href="http://lrrc.com/" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">lrrc.com</a><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From:<span> </span><a href="mailto:ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org</a><span><wbr> </span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">ws2-hr-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a>] On Behalf Of Niels ten Oever<br>Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 11:15 PM<br>To:<span> </span><a href="mailto:ws2-hr@icann.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">ws2-hr@icann.org</a><br>Subject: [Ws2-hr] Proposed Agenda for call September 13 1900 UTC<br><br>Dear all,<br><br>Please find underneath the proposed agenda for the call for September 13<br>1900 UTC.<br><br>Please let me know if you would like to add, amend or remove any agenda points.<br><br>1. Administrivia<br>Roll call, absentees, SoIs, etc<br><br>2. Final Discussion on: Summary on what was agreed and discussed on human rights during WS1 (attached and here:<br><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rwpw9aSAqboRO2_rNkjMVJPOmYwmdr5B1_M_aNMoZb4/edit?usp=sharing" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/1rwpw9aSAqboRO2_<wbr>rNkjMVJPOmYwmdr5B1_M_aNMoZb4/<wbr>edit?usp=sharing</a><br>)<br><br>3. General Discussion & Q&A on Ruggie Principles and Ruggie FIFA report (attached and here:<br><a href="http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Publications/GuidingPrinciplesBusinessHR_EN.pdf" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://www.ohchr.org/<wbr>Documents/Publications/<wbr>GuidingPrinciplesBusinessHR_<wbr>EN.pdf</a><br><br><a href="https://www.hks.harvard.edu/content/download/79736/1789834/version/1/file/Ruggie_humanrightsFIFA_reportApril2016.pdf" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://www.hks.harvard.edu/<wbr>content/download/79736/<wbr>1789834/version<br>/1/file/Ruggie_<wbr>humanrightsFIFA_<wbr>reportApril2016.pdf</a><span> </span>)<br><br>4. 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