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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Quick comment: shouldn&#8217;t it be &#8222;balancing
<b><u>process</u></b>&#8220; instead of &#8222;balancing progress&#8220; under question nr. 4?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Jorge<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE"> ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>McAuley, David<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 22. November 2016 20:13<br>
<b>An:</b> ws2-hr@icann.org<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [Ws2-hr] FW: My suggestions for tweaking HR Sub-Team questions after yesterday's Legal team call<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Below is the copy of the mail I sent to Leon re HR questions &#8211; I had noted some clarifications to what legal team was considering and Leon asked me to take a pass at clarifying.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">David <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif"> McAuley, David
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 18, 2016 9:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'ccwg-accountability5@icann.org'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> My suggestions for tweaking HR Sub-Team questions after yesterday's Legal team call<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi Leon and legal team,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Here are the question we addressed yesterday with respect to the HR sub-team:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">What is the definition ICANN legal uses for &#8216;applicable law&#8217;?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">What does the term &#8220;Respect&#8221; mean according to the bylaws (in relation to Core Values)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">What is the relationship between core values and commitments in general; and the HR core value and commitments in particular?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">4.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">How does the balancing progress between core values, as described in the bylaws, take place? Is it documented?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On the call I noted some comments in the nature of clarification and Leon asked if I would suggest some revisions on list and here below are my thoughts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">First, however, two important points.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">One, I will separately send a copy of this memo to Niels ten Oever, one of the rapporteurs of the HR Sub-Team who is handling this matter for the sub-team. I will ask Niels to contact us through Leon rather quickly if
 he has any issue with any of this. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">And, two, recall that I am a member of the HR Sub-team and have taken an active position on the nature of &#8220;respect&#8221; and the meaning of &#8220;applicable law&#8221; in the team.&nbsp; There are other views than mine and they have been
 reasonably expressed - the discussion is not ended. So I come at this with a point of view, nonetheless I have endeavored to make these &#8220;tweaked&#8221; questions fair and in keeping with the questions originally posed by Niels.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Here is how I suggest we handle these questions and forward them to ICANN legal:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">With respect to ICANN legal&#8217;s understanding of the definition of &#8220;applicable law&#8221;:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">a.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Has ICANN legal developed an understanding of the meaning of the term &#8220;applicable law&#8221;?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">If so, does that understanding apply in the context of the new bylaw at Article 1.2(b)(viii)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Would the following definition of &#8220;applicable law,&#8221; currently under consideration by the CCWG WS2 Sub-Team on Human Rights, be consistent with either or both of those?:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">&lt;Quote&gt;: Applicable law refers to the body of law that binds ICANN at any given time, in any given circumstance and in any relevant jurisdiction. It consists of statutes, rules, regulations, etcetera, as well
 as judicial opinions, where appropriate. It is a dynamic concept inasmuch as laws, regulations, etcetera, change over time. Applicable law can have disparate impacts on ICANN around the globe: for example, if ICANN employs personnel in different jurisdictions
 then it must observe the appropriate labour laws in those various locales. Applicable law is thus a large body of law that eludes our ability to catalogue, but it is ascertainable in the context of a specific question or issue. &lt;Quote&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">Please share the applicable understanding(s).
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US">With respect to questions 2 through 4 above I suggest we leave the questions as they are but introduce each of them with this phrase: &#8220;In the view of ICANN legal,&#8221;.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">David <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">David McAuley<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">International Policy Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Verisign Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">703-948-4154<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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