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<p>I think we have to be careful in how we interpret Annex 12. It
says: <br>
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mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA">"...
the
CCWG-Accountability will develop a designated Framework of
Interpretation as
part of Work Stream 2 and will consider the following as it
elaborates on the
language to be used..."</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:115%;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times
New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA">The
bullets in Annex 12 are things to consider in elaborating the
language that we use in the FoI, not questions that have to be
answered. Have we considered the issues raised in Annex 12?
Yes, to a greater or lesser degree and I suspect that we have
touched upon all of them a number of times in our various
discussions. <br>
</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:115%;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times
New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA">I
think we need to agree on an approach as to how we should
account for the bullets. Have we addressed them - considered
them - enough as we were writing the FoI? And if they are not
accounted for in some form in the FoI do we write a para on each
saying what the result of our considerations were?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:115%;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times
New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA">Also,
and this may be an issue of interpretation, but I always
understood that the FoI does not operationalize the bylaw. It
provides context and guidance as to how it should be
interpreted. Operationalizing the bylaw - or how it is
implemented - is what some of those bullets are getting at in
Annex 12 - and those are issues beyond the FoI. That is what I
thought we were starting to address before we asked the CCWG for
guidance (which has, I believe, great merit).</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:115%;
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mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA">Matthew<br>
</span></p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27/01/2017 13:06, Nigel Roberts
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote cite="mid:588B45EA.7080707@channelisles.net" type="cite">This
is a good summary of where we are.
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 27/01/17 11:40, Dr. Tatiana Tropina wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Dear all,
<br>
<br>
I don't think the group at this point can "confirm that it has
completed
<br>
developing the Human Rights FOI per Annex 12 of the
CCWG-Accountability
<br>
WS1 Recommendations" as recommended by co-chairs. What we have
done is
<br>
interpreted the text of the bylaw. I do not believe the current
version
<br>
of FoI addresses all the issues from the Annex 12, moreover.
Neither do
<br>
I believe it makes bylaw operational.
<br>
<br>
The initial idea was that the bylaw will come into force after
the
<br>
adoption of FoI. I have some difficulties to imagine how the
current FoI
<br>
will really operationalise the bylaw. Even the fact that we
didn't
<br>
answer all the questions from the Annex 12 in the current
version of FoE
<br>
makes our task incomplete. Furthermore, we had some issues
raised on the
<br>
mailing list in the beginning, like the one from Farzaneh, about
ccTLDs
<br>
and Human Rights - we have not addressed or considered these
issues. The
<br>
idea behind the dormant bylaw was that it creates to much
ambiguity
<br>
without the FoI. The current draft of FoI doesn't really solve
this
<br>
problem.
<br>
<br>
So the only way I see is to redraft the FoE to include
everything we
<br>
have to include.
<br>
<br>
Happy to hear other opinions.
<br>
<br>
Warm regards
<br>
<br>
Tanya
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 27/01/17 09:43, Niels ten Oever wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Dear all,
<br>
<br>
Please find underneath the message that has been shared by the
co-chairs
<br>
to the plenary list yesterday. I would be very curious to hear
what your
<br>
initial reaction is.
<br>
<br>
All the best,
<br>
<br>
Niels
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] Scope of mandate on HR FOI
<br>
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 07:11:05 -0600
<br>
From: León Felipe Sánchez
Ambía<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx"><leonfelipe@sanchez.mx></a>
<br>
To: CCWG
Accountability<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org"><accountability-cross-community@icann.org></a>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Dear all,
<br>
<br>
The Co-Chairs have considered the question from the Human
Rights
<br>
sub-group regarding the scope of its mandate with respect ot
WS2.
<br>
<br>
The Co-Chairs will note that although there may be some
ambiguity in
<br>
interpreting the WS2 requirements for the Human Rights
sub-group between
<br>
Annex 6 and Annex 12 of its WS1 recommendations that this
should not be
<br>
surprising given the timeline we were working under for WS1.
The
<br>
Co-Chairs will note that all the other sub-groups are
referring to Annex
<br>
12 to define the scope of their work and that it would make
sense from a
<br>
consistency point of view that the Human Rights sub-group do
so also.
<br>
<br>
The Co-Chairs further note that some of the "considerations"
requested
<br>
of the Human Rights sub-group seem rather open ended such as
“Consider
<br>
how the interpretation and implementation of this Bylaw will
interact
<br>
with existing and future ICANN policies and procedures.”.
Although this
<br>
would certainly be an interesting intellectual exercise it is
unclear
<br>
how long it would take to complete this or what effect it
could actually
<br>
have on the FOI that has been produced.
<br>
<br>
Considering these and other factors the Co-Chairs would
recommend that
<br>
the Human Rights sub-group confirm that it has completed
developing the
<br>
Human Rights FOI per Annex 12 of the CCWG-Accountability WS1
<br>
Recommendations.
<br>
<br>
Should the sub-group feel that it should develop suggestions
for ICANN
<br>
implementing the HR FOI based on its work to date the
Co-Chairs would be
<br>
amenable to this and would invite the HR sub-group to submit
any such
<br>
suggestions to the plenary for consideration by early May
2017, if there
<br>
was no objection from the plenary.
<br>
<br>
Best regards,
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thomas, Mathieu and León
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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