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<p>I would like to express my full support for the views of both
David and Greg. <br>
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<p>Matthew<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27/09/2017 00:07, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">All, </font></div>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">With
regard to the statement "</font><span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">However,
the Subgroup did not undertake an inclusive effort to
determine if a compromise text could be formulated that
would accommodate this position of the three governments,"</span><span
style="font-size:12.8px"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"> I
am still at a loss to understand what was not "inclusive"
about the efforts of the Subgroup and in particular our
Rapporteur, Niels ten Oever.</font></span><span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> </span></div>
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<div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><font
face="verdana, sans-serif">Since the reference to the last
drafting team was removed, I assume it was not the
drafting team. Since the drafting team did most of its
work on the main Subgroup list, was open to everybody
(minor procedural flaws in the call for volunteers aside),
and the drafting team's suggested changes were not even
adopted, that seems like the right result.</font></span></div>
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<div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><font
face="verdana, sans-serif">In any event there were ample
opportunities to contribute suggested alternatives to the
list -- the drafting team did not have a monopoly.</font></span></div>
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<div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><font
face="verdana, sans-serif">If the drafting team isn't the
issue, then what was the issue? The floor and the email
list were open at all times to all participants in the
Subgroup. No one in the Subgroup was excluded.</font></span></div>
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face="verdana, sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><font
face="verdana, sans-serif">The public comments were read,
fully considered and extensively discussed. There is no
presumption that any particular public comment or comments
will result in a change to a draft Report. As such, while
"</font></span><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12.8px">Their expectation was that a
properly balanced result would reflect some if not all of
the positions and proposals made in their responses,"
there was no basis for that expectation. </span></font></div>
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face="verdana, sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><font
face="verdana, sans-serif">The consideration of public
comments is too nuanced to reduce to simple rules, but I
have observed that public comments that do result in
changes tend to fall into the following categories: (1)
suggestions that do not change the substance, but improve
the expression, (2) comments that bring new facts to
light, so that the basis of the recommendation is no
longer accurate, or (3) multiple diverse comments that
persuasively show the group that they got it wrong the
first time and that they have missed the sense of the
multistakeholder community. The comments in question,
eloquent and well stated though they may have been, did
none of the above.</font></span></div>
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face="verdana, sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><font
face="verdana, sans-serif">One category of public comment
that has not been particularly effective, in my
experience, is a comment from a group participant (or
related participants) that seeks to accomplish a
substantive change via comment what was not accomplished
in the group. In part, this may be because it is not a
new voice or viewpoint for the Subgroup. (Of course I
understand that the participants here were individuals
while the comments came from entities, but that is typical
-- most participants do not file individual comments.)</font></span></div>
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face="verdana, sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><font
face="verdana, sans-serif">In any event, if the process
was not the problem, what was the problem, aside from
disappointment in the result -- that what was a minority
position remained a minority position?</font></span></div>
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face="verdana, sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><font
face="verdana, sans-serif">I note that the dissent,
although advertised as concentrating on substance,
actually contains little substance, aside from the
statement that "</font></span><font face="verdana,
sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">the three
Governments were in full agreement that the FOI text
should make stronger reference to the UN Guiding
Principles as the most relevant voluntary international
standard."</span></font></div>
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style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12.8px">What's missing is a statement
identifying the portion of the Subgroup report where the
submitters did not join the consensus. (I am assuming
that they are not dissenting from the whole of the
document.) What's also missing is the actual "minority
position" -- the text that the dissent would have
supported if it had been in the Report. Without these
elements, the dissent regrettably reads more like a
complaint than a minority report.</span></font></div>
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style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12.8px">Finally, I would note that the
formal predicate for including a minority report is that
it comes from the Subgroup participants who did not join
the group's consensus. As such, it seems out of order to
include any submitters other than participants. I suppose
we are being a little more relaxed, since this is merely
CCWG business. However, if the dissent insists on
including a minority report in the full CCWG report put
out for public comments, I hope that the process will be
honored. </span></font></div>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:12.8px">Best regards,</span></font></div>
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style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 9:31 PM,
McAuley, David via Ws2-hr <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:ws2-hr@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ws2-hr@icann.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dear
co-chairs and all,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I
plan to participate in the CCWG Plenary tomorrow,
but it will be from a public setting where I will
most likely be unable to comment other than by chat.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thus,
I wish to respond to Jorge’s email here (noting as
well that I participated in the drafting team that
is at the center of some of the concern that has
lately arisen).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">First,
let me say that it has been a pleasure to be a part
of the Subgroup on HR. The subgroup was very well
led, and participants included serious, principled,
and thoughtful individuals on all sides of the
issues discussed. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">With
respect to the draft ‘dissenting opinion,’ it is, in
my opinion, difficult not to embrace the public
comments of the governments of Brazil, Switzerland,
and the United Kingdom when it comes to HR. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Nonetheless,
that is where I find myself on the narrow issue of
making stronger reference to the Ruggie Principles
(UN Guiding Principles on Business and Human Rights
– UNGP) in the HR FOI and Considerations document.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The
subgroup draft appears to me to be properly balanced
by stating that certain aspects of the UNGP
<span style="color:black;background:white">could be
considered as a useful guide in the process of
applying the Human Rights Core Value.
</span></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Under
the UNGP, the responsibility to respect human rights
requires that businesses, among other things, seek
to mitigate adverse human rights impacts that are
directly linked to their operations or services by
their “business relationships,” even if they have
not contributed to those impacts. This is one
particular area of my concern when it comes to
ICANN, which as a ‘business’ is unique.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">“Business
relationships” is a very broad term in the UNGP -
including relationships with business partners,
entities in its value chain, and any others directly
linked to its business operations, products or
services. That must include registrants, among
others.
</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">And
while the UNGP try to accommodate various
complexities, they still provide that If the
business enterprise has leverage to prevent or
mitigate the adverse impact, it should exercise it.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">It
seems to me this aspect of the UNGP could
inappropriately force ICANN into content issues
outside its narrow mission.
</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The
new Core Value is a part of ICANN’s bylaws and as
such is subject to IRP claims where potential
claimants allege that ICANN violated the Core Value
by its action or inaction. HR-based claims will
almost inevitably wind up in front of the
soon-to-be-constituted IRP panel. These (at least)
seven new panelists will be drawn from legal circles
independent of ICANN. There is simply no way to
envision how they would interpret reference to the
UNGP and no guarantee that this new
precedent-setting body might not try to stretch
ICANN’s mission to accommodate the UNGP. They will
receive training on the DNS but we have no idea
whether or to what extent they might appreciate
ICANN’s unique mission, especially at the outset of
their work where they will nevertheless have the
power to set precedent.
</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">In
its eloquent public comment, the government of the
UK remarked that absent a stronger reference to UNGP
the ICANN community would effectively miss an
opportunity “to be a global transnational beacon for
advancing corporate respect for human rights.”
</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I
respectfully disagree, thinking that ICANN has
embraced that opportunity by explicitly adopting a
core value aimed at respecting HR.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Given
ICANN’s unique mission (and potential damage from
mission-creep), its open and participatory
community, and the newness of the IRP panel to come,
there appears to be no demonstrable need to make
reference to the UNGP at present, but downside-risk
does seem possible. If the community in the future
discerns that such a need has subsequently arisen,
then steps can be taken at that time to consider
such a reference as appropriately tailored to take
account of ICANN’s uniqueness. By that time,
presumably, the IRP panel will have taken shape and
have become a little more predictable than it is at
the moment.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best
regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">David</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">David
McAuley</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sr
International Policy & Business Development
Manager</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Verisign
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a
href="mailto:ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org</a>
[mailto:<a
href="mailto:ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ws2-hr-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a
href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 18, 2017 5:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ws2-hr@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ws2-hr@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] [Ws2-hr] WG:
dissenting opinion - final-final text for CCWG</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">For
your information</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Kind
regards</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Jorge
</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE">Von:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE"> Cancio Jorge BAKOM
<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 18. September 2017
11:45<br>
<b>An:</b> 'León Felipe Sánchez Ambía' <<a
href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>>;
'Thomas Rickert' <<a
href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">thomas@rickert.net</a>>;
'Jordan Carter' <<a
href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Niels ten Oever' <<a
href="mailto:lists@nielstenoever.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lists@nielstenoever.net</a>>;
'Bernard Turcotte' <<a
href="mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">turcotte.bernard@gmail.com</a>>;
'Arasteh' <<a
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>>;
'Mark Carvell' <<a
href="mailto:mark.carvell@culture.gov.uk"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mark.carvell@culture.gov.uk</a>>;
'María Milagros Castañon Seoane' <<a
href="mailto:mcastanon@rree.gob.pe"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mcastanon@rree.gob.pe</a>>;
'Thiago Braz Jardim Oliveira' <<a
href="mailto:thiago.jardim@itamaraty.gov.br"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">thiago.jardim@itamaraty.gov.<wbr>br</a>><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> AW: dissenting opinion -
final-final text for CCWG</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Dear
co-chairs and all,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I
note with appreciation the constructive and
forward-looking Email Thomas Rickert sent on
your behalf last week on the constitution of
“drafting teams”.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">In
order to allow for an as constructive as
possible discussion on the CCWG Plenary on
September 27, I would like to file with you the
following
<i><u>amended version of our dissent</u></i>,
which tries to focus only on the substantive
issues that hopefully may be bridged during our
discussions in the CCWG Plenary:</span></p>
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"This dissenting opinion is based on serious
concerns about the Sub-Group's treatment of the
substantial comments and proposals submitted
during the public comment period by the
Governments of Brazil, Switzerland and the United
Kingdom (who are all active members of the GAC's
Human Rights and International Law Working
Group). </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">
Their expectation was that a properly balanced
result would reflect some if not all of the
positions and proposals made in their responses.
The governments are dismayed to note, however,
that there are no changes of any significance to
the draft FoI and Considerations documents that
addresses any of the substantial issueswhich they
raised.</p>
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In particular, the three Governments were in full
agreement that the FOI text should make stronger
reference to the UN Guiding Principles as the most
relevant voluntary international standard.
However, the Subgroup did not undertake an
inclusive effort to determine if a compromise text
could be formulated that would accommodate this
position of the three governments. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">
This dissenting opinion is supported by Jorge
Cancio (Switzerland) and Kavouss Arasteh (Iran),
members of this Subgroup, and the representatives
of the Governments of Brazil and UK who are
observers on this Subgroup, and the representative
of the Government of Peru.”</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Hope
this may be helpful.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Kind
regards</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Jorge
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE">Von:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE"> Cancio Jorge BAKOM
<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 13. September
2017 08:35<br>
<b>An:</b> León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a
href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>>;
Thomas Rickert <<a
href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">thomas@rickert.net</a>>;
Jordan Carter <<a
href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Niels ten Oever <<a
href="mailto:lists@nielstenoever.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lists@nielstenoever.net</a>>;
Bernard Turcotte <<a
href="mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">turcotte.bernard@gmail.com</a>>;
Arasteh <<a
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>>;
Mark Carvell <<a
href="mailto:mark.carvell@culture.gov.uk"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mark.carvell@culture.gov.uk</a>>;
María Milagros Castañon Seoane <<a
href="mailto:mcastanon@rree.gob.pe"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mcastanon@rree.gob.pe</a>>;
Thiago Braz Jardim Oliveira <<a
href="mailto:thiago.jardim@itamaraty.gov.br"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">thiago.jardim@itamaraty.gov.<wbr>br</a>><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> AW: dissenting opinion -
final-final text for CCWG</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Dear
Co-Chairs and all,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">For
your convenience, here is the clean text version
of the dissent we would like to be submitted to
the Plenary for its consideration:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">
"This dissenting opinion is based on serious
concerns about the Sub-Group's treatment of the
substantial comments and proposals submitted
during the public comment period by the
Governments of Brazil, Switzerland and the United
Kingdom (who are all active members of the GAC's
Human Rights and International Law Working
Group). </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">
Their expectation was that a properly balanced
result would reflect some if not all of the
positions and proposals made in their responses.
The governments are dismayed to note, however,
that there are no changes of any significance to
the draft FoI and Considerations documents that
addresses any of the substantial issueswhich they
raised.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">
In particular, the three Governments were in full
agreement that the FOI text should make stronger
reference to the UN Guiding Principles as the most
relevant voluntary international standard.
However, the Subgroup did not undertake an
inclusive effort to determine if a compromise text
could be formulated that would accommodate this
position of the three governments. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">
Furthermore, the drafting team which was created
by the Sub-Group in order to develop changes to
the draft texts following consideration of the
inputs received, lacked appropriate stakeholder
balance as in our view there was not an
appropriate communication and outreach on its
constitution, which contributed to having no
Government representation on this team.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">
This dissenting opinion is supported by Jorge
Cancio (Switzerland) and Kavouss Arasteh (Iran),
members of this Subgroup, and the representatives
of the Governments of Brazil and UK who are
observers on this Subgroup, and the representative
of the Government of Peru.”</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks
again and regards</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Jorge
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE">Von:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE"> Cancio Jorge BAKOM
<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 13. September
2017 07:03<br>
<b>An:</b> León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a
href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>>;
Thomas Rickert <<a
href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">thomas@rickert.net</a>>;
Jordan Carter <<a
href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Niels ten Oever <<a
href="mailto:lists@nielstenoever.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lists@nielstenoever.net</a>>;
Bernard Turcotte <<a
href="mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">turcotte.bernard@gmail.com</a>>;
Arasteh <<a
href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>>;
Mark Carvell <<a
href="mailto:mark.carvell@culture.gov.uk"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mark.carvell@culture.gov.uk</a>>;
María Milagros Castañon Seoane <<a
href="mailto:mcastanon@rree.gob.pe"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mcastanon@rree.gob.pe</a>>;
Thiago Braz Jardim Oliveira <<a
href="mailto:thiago.jardim@itamaraty.gov.br"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">thiago.jardim@itamaraty.gov.<wbr>br</a>><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> dissenting opinion -
final-final text for CCWG</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH"> </span></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">Dear Co-Chairs</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">please find below for your
convenience and in order to avoid any
misunderstandings on the final text, the
final version of the dissenting opinion
we have filed for Plenary.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">Kind regards</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">Jorge</span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"> </span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div
id="m_4422862865267373713E278EABE-0E72-4F94-A99F-9B0081D4A95C">
<div class="MsoNormal"
style="text-align:center" align="center"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="DE-CH">
<hr size="2" align="center" width="100%">
</span></div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"><br>
<b>Von:</b> Cancio Jorge BAKOM <<a
href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch</a>><br>
<b>Datum:</b> 5. September 2017 um
12:33:00 MESZ<br>
<b>An:</b> Greg Shatan <<a
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>,
Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<a
href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">AAikman@lrrc.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a
href="mailto:thiago.jardim@itamaraty.gov.br"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">thiago.jardim@itamaraty.gov.br</a>
<<a
href="mailto:thiago.jardim@itamaraty.gov.br"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">thiago.jardim@itamaraty.gov.<wbr>br</a>>,
<a href="mailto:ws2-hr@icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ws2-hr@icann.org</a>
<<a href="mailto:ws2-hr@icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ws2-hr@icann.org</a>>,
<a
href="mailto:lists@nielstenoever.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">lists@nielstenoever.net</a>
<<a
href="mailto:lists@nielstenoever.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">lists@nielstenoever.net</a>><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> AW: [Ws2-hr]
dissenting opinion - final version for
transmittal to CCWG plenary</span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"> </span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks
to Greg for this thorough
investigation to the origins of the
„drafting team“. Apparently only the
transcript of the call on August 8<sup>th</sup>
provides some clarity on how the
drafting team was constituted, as the
agenda, the notes of the call, and the
subsequent emails did not contain an
open call for participating in such a
drafting team.
</span><span lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Nonetheless,
and recognizing that at least in the
call itself there was such a call for
forming the drafting team, I would
like to slightly amend the dissenting
opinion as follows:</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">==</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:35.4pt">
"This dissenting opinion is based on
serious concerns about the Sub-Group's
treatment of the substantial comments
and proposals submitted during the
public comment period by the Governments
of Brazil, Switzerland and the United
Kingdom (who are all active members of
the GAC's Human Rights and International
Law Working Group). <span lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:35.4pt">
Their expectation was that a properly
balanced result would reflect some if
not all of the positions and proposals
made in their responses. The governments
are dismayed to note, however, that
there are no changes of any significance
to the draft FoI and Considerations
documents that addresses any of the
substantial issueswhich they raised.<span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:35.4pt">
In particular, the three Governments
were in full agreement that the FOI text
should make stronger reference to the UN
Guiding Principles as the most relevant
voluntary international standard.
However, the Subgroup did not undertake
an inclusive effort to determine if a
compromise text could be formulated that
would accommodate this position of the
three governments. <span lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:35.4pt">
Furthermore, the drafting team which was
created by the Sub-Group in order to
develop changes to the draft texts
following consideration of the inputs
received, lacked appropriate stakeholder
balance as
<span style="color:red">in our view </span>there
was no<span style="color:red">t an
appropriate communication and outreach
on its constitution<s>open invitation
to participate in the drafting team</s></span>,
which contributed to having no
Government representation on this team.<span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:35.4pt">
This dissenting opinion is supported by
Jorge Cancio (Switzerland) and Kavouss
Arasteh (Iran), members of this
Subgroup, and the representatives of the
Governments of Brazil and UK who are
observers on this Subgroup, and the
representative of the Government of
Peru.”<span lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">==</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Kind
regards</span><span lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Jorge
</span><span lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE">Von:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE"> Greg Shatan [<a
href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.<wbr>com</a>]<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 5.
September 2017 08:21<br>
<b>An:</b> Aikman-Scalese, Anne <<a
href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">AAikman@lrrc.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Cancio Jorge BAKOM <<a
href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch</a>>;
<a
href="mailto:lists@nielstenoever.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">lists@nielstenoever.net</a>;
<a
href="mailto:thiago.jardim@itamaraty.gov.br"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">
thiago.jardim@itamaraty.gov.br</a><wbr>;
<a href="mailto:ws2-hr@icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ws2-hr@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Ws2-hr]
dissenting opinion - final version for
transmittal to CCWG plenary</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH"> </span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">All,</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">I think it would be
helpful to review the course of
events under discussion here and
in the minority statement. I've
taken the time to comb through the
email list and the relevant
meeting transcripts, and as far as
I can determine, this is what took
place. I'll provide this without
further comment, but I hope it is
useful to all members of the
Subgroup.</span><span lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">1. Niels made a
request for volunteers to join a
drafting team on the August 8,
2017 Working Group call.
Attendance records show that
Kavouss Arasteh and Mark Carvell
were on the call (the latter as an
Observer). Three people on the
call (David Macauley, myself and
Tatiana Tropina) volunteered for
the drafting team. Anne also
apparently volunteered, but this
was not noted in the call notes;
this was subsequently clarified.</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">2. Almost directly
after the call (or possibly even
during the end of the call), Niels
sent to the subgroup list an email
with two versions of the paragraph
in question ("Original text" and
"Text proposed by me on the
call"), and said "I am greatly
looking forward to the suggestion
of the drafting team."</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">3. Matthew Shears
replied to that thread a couple of
hours later and volunteered to be
on the drafting team. Rudy
Daniel, Anne Aikman-Scalese and
Kavouss Arasteh also replied to
that thread, with contributions.
Rudy also sent a follow-on email
with further observations; David
responded to this.</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">4. Within a few
hours after that, MSSI Secretariat
sent an email to both the CCWG and
ws2-hr lists with Action Items and
raw captioning from the August 8
meeting. The second Action Item
from the meeting was:</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:#0432ff;margin-left:0in">
<b><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">DM, GS, TT
volunteer for drafting team for
the two elements of text which
were discussed on the call this
week <br>
for consideration at the next
meeting.</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"></span></li>
</ul>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">5. The next day,
David sent another email on the
topic, again to the full subgroup
list. Kavouss, Anne and Steve
DelBianco all replied to this
email, discussing various aspects
and options for the text.</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">6. Meanwhile, Anne
sent an email directly after the
call with some thoughts on the
language of this paragraph, to
which there were numerous
responses by eight different
members of the subgroup (Kavouss,
Tijani, Steve, Rudy, Brett,
Bastiaan, Seun and David) over the
next couple of days.</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">7. Members of the
drafting team took note of these
discussions on the list and then
put together a suggested revised
text to be discussed by the
Subgroup.</span><span lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">8. On August 15, the
date set to return a text to the
list, David Macauley on behalf of
the Drafting Team sent a suggested
text to the full list for the
Subgroup to consider. Brett and
Anne (who had not yet seen the
very final suggested text due to
time zone differences) responded
in support of the suggested text.
Jorge and Kavouss responded,
objecting to the suggested text.</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">9. There were also
responses to Niels' agenda email
to the list, commenting on the
suggested text -- Brett, Matthew,
Rudy, and Anne in support; Jorge
and Kavouss objecting. </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">10. This suggested
text was then discussed on the
August 15 call. The decision on
that call, as reported in the
post-call email from MSSI
Secretariat, was:</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:0in">
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">The modifications
proposed by the drafting team
were not supported and as such
are rejected. The original text
used in the public consultation
will be used.</span><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"></span></li>
</ul>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="DE-CH"> </span></p>
</div>
<blockquote
style="margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"></span><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">Only David
Macauley and Tatiana Tropina
were present from the drafting
team. Anne, Matthew and I were
unable to attend. Kavouss was
on the call and participated
actively in the discussion of
the revised text. Mark
Carvell was present as an
Observer.</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
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</blockquote>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="DE-CH"> </span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"></span><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">11. </span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"></span><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">At the following
meeting on August 22, there was
no further discussion of the
drafting team's text. There was
a second reading of the cover
email to be sent to the Plenary
with the Subgroup's report,
including the language used to
characterize the Subgroup's
response to comments suggesting
that the UNGP be expressly
mentioned. There was also a
lengthy discussion of procedural
matters relating to the minority
statement submitted by Jorge.</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">Best regards,</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
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style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"
lang="DE-CH">Greg</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="DE-CH"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="DE-CH"> </span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="DE-CH">On Thu, Aug 31,
2017 at 1:24 PM, Aikman-Scalese,
Anne <<a
href="mailto:AAikman@lrrc.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">AAikman@lrrc.com</a>>
wrote:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">Thanks
Jorge. You may recall
that in one version of the
revised “Considerations”
language proposed by me on
the list, I included a
specific reference to
ICANN the organisation
using the assessment tool
specified in Ruggie
Principle 18(b). This
suggestion was rejected by
the rest of the drafting
team. As far as I know,
there were not separate
drafting team calls and
everyone participated on
the list and proposed
language on the general
list. </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">I
am not certain how the
final language arose, but
in the end I elected to
support it. I do think
that if either Kavouss or
you as active members
would have chosen to
become drafting team
members, the language
might have been better.</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">Thank
you</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">Anne</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><a
href="mailto:ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org</a>
[mailto:<a
href="mailto:ws2-hr-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ws2-hr-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a>]<b>On
Behalf Of
</b><a
href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday,
August 31, 2017 9:04
AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:lists@nielstenoever.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">lists@nielstenoever.net</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a
href="mailto:thiago.jardim@itamaraty.gov.br"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">thiago.jardim@itamaraty.gov.br</a><wbr>;<a
href="mailto:ws2-hr@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ws2-hr@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b>
[Ws2-hr] dissenting
opinion - final
version for
transmittal to CCWG
plenary</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d" lang="DE-CH">Dear Niels,</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d" lang="DE-CH"> </span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">As anticipated, please find
hereunder the final
version of the
dissenting opinion I
would like to file to
the report from the
Subgroup:</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><span lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">==</span><span lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:35.4pt">
"This dissenting opinion
is based on serious
concerns about the
Sub-Group's treatment of
the substantial comments
and proposals submitted
during the public
comment period by the
Governments of Brazil,
Switzerland and the
United Kingdom (who are
all active members of
the GAC's Human Rights
and International Law
Working Group). <span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:35.4pt">
Their expectation was
that a properly balanced
result would reflect
some if not all of the
positions and proposals
made in their responses.
The governments are
dismayed to note,
however, that there are
no changes of any
significance to the
draft FoI and
Considerations documents
that addresses any of
the substantial
issueswhich they raised.<span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:35.4pt">
In particular, the three
Governments were in full
agreement that the FOI
text should make
stronger reference to
the UN Guiding
Principles as the most
relevant voluntary
international standard.
However, the Subgroup
did not undertake an
inclusive effort to
determine if a
compromise text could be
formulated that would
accommodate this
position of the three
governments. <span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:35.4pt">
Furthermore, the
drafting team which was
created by the Sub-Group
in order to develop
changes to the draft
texts following
consideration of the
inputs received, lacked
appropriate stakeholder
balance as there was no
open invitation to
participate in the
drafting team, which
contributed to having no
Government
representation on this
team.<span lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:35.4pt">
This dissenting opinion
is supported by Jorge
Cancio (Switzerland) and
Kavouss Arasteh (Iran),
members of this
Subgroup, and the
representatives of the
Governments of Brazil
and UK who are observers
on this Subgroup, and
the representative of
the Government of Peru.”<span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">==</span><span lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><span lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">Thanks for including it in the
final report to be
transmitted to the
CCWG Plenary for its
consideration.</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><span lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">Kind regards</span><span
lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><span lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">Jorge
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lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><span lang="DE-CH"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank"
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target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:accountability-cross-<wbr>community-bounces@icann.org</a>]<b>Im
Auftrag von
</b>MSSI
Secretariat<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b>
Mittwoch, 30.
August 2017 00:54<br>
<b>An:</b> CCWG
Accountability
<<a
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<b>Betreff:</b>
[CCWG-ACCT]
Recordings, DAIRs,
Raw Caption Notes
for Human Rights
Subgroup Meeting
#32 | 29 August
2017</span><span
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