[Ws2-jurisdiction] Staying Focused in the Jurisdiction Subgroup

matthew shears mshears at cdt.org
Fri Dec 30 20:02:50 UTC 2016


Agree Greg and Paul.


On 30/12/2016 16:49, Paul Rosenzweig wrote:
>
> +1.  The insistence in focusing on an issue of interest to a small 
> minority is delaying us greatly.
>
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> Paul Rosenzweig
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> Friday, 30 December 2016, 02:13AM -05:00 from Greg Shatan 
> gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>:
>
>     All,
>
>     We are getting ahead of ourselves.  Meanwhile, we're not doing the
>     things we should be doing, which will only slow us down in the end.
>
>     In particular, the discussions of possible "remedies", such as
>     "immunity" or alternative structures for ICANN are, at best,
>     premature, and need to be set aside.  We need to focus the
>     subgroup on problems first, consistent with our work plan. 
>     Problems will lead to remedies, just as diagnosis leads to treatment.
>
>     Specifically, the subgroup needs to concentrate on taking
>     suggestions for possible problems arising from "ICANN's
>     jurisdiction" from participants, really discussing these
>     suggestions in the subgroup, and determining as a subgroup whether
>     these suggestions are in fact problems that should be included in
>     our analysis.
>
>     I'm specifically using "problems" and not "issues", based on a
>     very good suggestion from Phil Corwin: "/Rather than issues, I
>     believe we should be focus on on demonstrable problems. Issues can
>     just consists of debating points absent real world evidence of
>     something broken or substantially sub-optimal requiring a
>     remedy./" "Problems" conveys much better that we are look for
>     concrete, specific items arising from "ICANN's jurisdiction,"
>     particularly with regard to the actual operation of policies and
>     accountability mechanisms (as stated in Annex 12).
>
>     After that is done, and the subgroup has an agreed list of
>     problems, we will then turn our focus to considering specific
>     possible remedies for specific problems. Discussions of remedies
>     should be held until that time.  Discussing remedies now will only
>     delay the proper discussion of remedies by the subgroup.
>
>     This has also distracted us from resolving issues with the
>     questionnaire. On Tuesday, I sent out a follow-up email on the
>     questionnaire under the Subject "Focus, Working Method and
>     Revisions to Proposed Questions: RESPONSE REQUESTED."  So far,
>     there have been very few responses.  Please read and respond to
>     that email.  We need to see if there is a compromise regarding
>     Question 4 that will garner broad support in the subgroup and
>     satisfy most (if not all) objections raised in the subgroup.
>
>     Thank you.
>
>     Greg
>
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