[Ws2-jurisdiction] first draft of fact solicitation questions
avri doria
avri at apc.org
Wed Nov 23 20:36:49 UTC 2016
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On 23-Nov-16 14:31, Mike Rodenbaugh wrote:
> I think we want the broadest range of experiences, but of course would
> not consider hearsay. If anyone can point us to documents about
> anyone else's experiences, then what is the harm in considering those
> documents? To me, the worse risk is that we don't hear about them at
> all because the person who had the experience does not see our survey.
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> Mike Rodenbaugh
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> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Paul Rosenzweig
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> +1 Everyone has opinions and second hand information. We want
> primary sources on t his …
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> *From:*ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org
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> <mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Greg
> Shatan
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 23, 2016 2:06 PM
> *To:* CW Mail <mail at christopherwilkinson.eu
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> *Cc:* ws2-jurisdiction at icann.org <mailto:ws2-jurisdiction at icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction] first draft of fact solicitation
> questions
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> I agree with CW on this one -- we are looking for first person
> facts, experiences and "anecdotal evidence." The facts are best
> known by the participants, and third parties (viewing events from
> the outside) often make assumptions about what happened or
> otherwise get things wrong.
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> Greg
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> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 1:04 PM, CW Mail
> <mail at christopherwilkinson.eu
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> Mike: I might see the point of broadening, if possible, the
> scope and catchment of the questions, but perhaps not in that way.
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> We should be dealing with Principals (in the sense of directly
> with those responsible for the entities concerned). Not their
> surrogates or other third parties.
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> Otherwise we risk receiving second hand information with which
> the Principals may not agree, and inviting 'bulk' replies from
> interested organisations.
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> We should also be cautious about receiving anonymous hearsay.
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> Just a thought
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> On 23 Nov 2016, at 17:20, Mike Rodenbaugh <mike at rodenbaugh.com
> <mailto:mike at rodenbaugh.com>> wrote:
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> These seem well-stated, except perhaps they should not be
> looking only for personal experience, but broaden the
> request to seek any experience the responder is aware of?
> So I suggest something like:
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> 1. Are you aware of any instance in which anyone's
> business, privacy, or ability to use or purchase
> DNS-related services, has been affected by ICANN's
> jurisdiction in any way?
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> If the answer is Yes, please describe specific cases or
> incidents, including the date, the parties involved, and
> links to any relevant documents.
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> 2. Are you aware of any instance in which ICANN's
> jurisdiction affected any dispute resolution process or
> litigation related to domain names?
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> If the answer is Yes, please describe specific cases or
> incidents, including the date, the parties involved, and
> links to any relevant documents.
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> Mike Rodenbaugh
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> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Mueller, Milton L
> <milton at gatech.edu <mailto:milton at gatech.edu>> wrote:
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> CW and I have agreed on the following draft:
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> *Request for stakeholder input on jurisdiction issues*
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> The Jurisdiction subgroup of the CCWG Accountability
> is asking for the community to provide factual input
> on the following questions:
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> 1. Has your business, your privacy or your
> ability to use or purchase DNS-related services, been
> affected by ICANN's jurisdiction in any way?
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> If the answer is Yes, please describe specific cases
> or incidents, including the date, the parties
> involved, and links to any relevant documents.
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> 2. Has ICANN's jurisdiction affected any dispute
> resolution process or litigation related to domain
> names you have been involved in?
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> If the answer is Yes, please describe specific cases
> or incidents, including the date, the parties
> involved, and links to any relevant documents.
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> Dr. Milton L. Mueller
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> Professor, School of Public Policy
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> Georgia Institute of Technology
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