[Ws2-jurisdiction] Issues List

parminder parminder at itforchange.net
Thu Aug 3 04:39:04 UTC 2017


Greg

May I repeat my request to provide link to the original google doc with
the list of issues etc that was around till a few months back. Thanks,
parminder


On Tuesday 01 August 2017 11:03 AM, parminder wrote:
>
> Greg/ All
>
> First of all, it is necessary for me to state that my continued
> engagement with this process is "under protest", and I cannot
> reconcile with the deliberate and unacceptable procedural mishap
> whereby the chairs unilaterally changed the mandate of this group,
> which was arrived at through processes of intricate negotiations and
> adjustments, and promises. It was not only a complete breach of faith,
> but will remain a permanent black mark on ICANN processes, and their
> vaunted openness and inclusiveness. When at the start of the IANA
> transition process many people raised the jurisdiction question (as in
> application of US public law, and not just private law) they were
> hoodwinked and told that this topic will indeed be discussed but since
> IANA transition was not dependent on it (rightly so) it belonged to
> workstream 2. And in workstream 2 when people asked the subject to be
> taken up in earnest, the chairs interceded out of nowhere to abolish
> it from the mandate. Majority of people who responded to this
> interjection by chairs - whether in this elist, or at the f2f meeting
> - expressed reservations with the process (other than a small US based
> group, which has a conflict of interest on the issue in the matter of
> discussing ICANN's jurisdiction issue). So, this really is ICANN, and
> its participatory culture!!
>
> Having got that off my head, but really more needed to be expressed as
> a matter of form:
>
> Greg, there was the google doc on issues, where I had submitted a list
> of 5-6 core issues long back that I see this group should address. Can
> I see that doc with that earlier version again. Where is that doc now,
> and why this list is being prepared de novo.... I remember that midway
> Kavouss also made an elaborate list of issues in an email..... We may
> not agree on adopting one solution or the other, but people do have a
> right to list what are the issues and problems according to them. And
> also you can see the composition of this group, some of us from
> developing countries have limited presence and accordingly limited
> time and we cannot keep responding to newer and newer processes. I
> will request to bring back the original list of issues that we have
> been arguing for months here. I am surprised at this truncated
> self-serving list of issues.
>
> parminder
>
>
>
> On Tuesday 18 July 2017 06:28 PM, Greg Shatan wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> Here is the proposed issues list in its current state, downloaded
>> from Google Drive.
>>
>> Greg
>>
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