[Ws2-jurisdiction] CCWG-Accountability-WS2-Jurisdiction-Meeting Scheduled for Wednesday 2 August 1300

Sun Jul 30 23:23:19 UTC 2017

This is why we have written transcripts of all our calls?

B.,

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Greg
> Thank you for reply.
> I know many people do not wish to react or act on OFAC as they would like
> that such unreasonable continued to be applied to some limited number of
> countries . You may not have any point to do that .
> Sam Eisner explanation MUST BE IN WRITTEN FORM as I have serious
> difficulties to understand her  message while she may speak very  well but
> I have difficulty to get the message  so I want an advance copy of her
> explanation before the meeting  .
> Pls note that I am not alone on the issue. If there are not other people
> at call that does not mean that I am alone.
> It seems that OFAC ISSUE WILL NOT BE TREATED since according to you there
> is no support for that. That is not what we expected from your Group.
> I know that there must be other motivation than technical and
> administrative that this question is rejected by you and your colleagues.
> However, this is an important issue and MUST be addressed .
> You can not ignore it even if there are few countries affected.
> I will not leave as such to be put at corner by you. I will insist and ask
> for a written documents
> There is no relation with state assets and DNS .There were and still there
> are other motivation to apply it and other motivation NOT to address it. I
> do not know what are those motivations.
> At any meeting you as a participants push and sushi for your points and
> taking considerable amount of time of the meeting since you have several
> supporters.
> Pls kindly reconsider your position and be a little bit helpful and not
> categorically object to my legitimate requiert .
> Tks for your kind attention and advice
> Kavouss
>
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Kavouss,
>>
>> I am responding to your various emails regarding your request that ICANN
>> Legal be required to prepare a comprehensive "written history background
>> Document" on OFAC and ICANN before meeting with the Jurisdiction Subgroup.
>> As you know, Samantha Eisner from ICANN Legal is scheduled to meet with the
>> Jurisdiction Subgroup on Tuesday, August 1 at 13:00.
>>
>> You suggested this course of action in the Jurisdiction Subgroup meeting
>> on July 26.  There was no other support for this course of action in the
>> Subgroup meeting.  At that time, I proposed that we would start by hearing
>> from ICANN legal in the meeting and engaging in Q&A with ICANN.  The
>> Subgroup would then be able to decide if we needed to ask ICANN further
>> questions, if we wanted written responses, etc.  There was no opposition to
>> this course of action, other than from yourself.  I believe this is all
>> reflected in the transcript.
>>
>> I will note that, subsequent to the meeting, no one from the Subgroup has
>> responded to your emails in support of your request.  In conjunction with
>> the results in the Subgroup meeting, I believe it fair to conclude that
>> there is not sufficient support for your request in the Subgroup.
>>
>> Therefore, we will proceed as agreed on the last call and documented in
>> the transcript.  We will hear from ICANN Legal and ask questions. The
>> Subgroup (and not any single participant) will then decide what, if any,
>> follow-up is needed.
>>
>> After this email, I will send out an email to the list requesting
>> questions for ICANN Legal, which we can provide them in advance of the
>> call.  I hope that you will contribute to this effort.
>>
>> Please note that there are times when professional and personal
>> obligations may prevent from responding to ICANN-related emails as quickly
>> as I might wish.  As with all of my ICANN activities, I am acting as
>> Rapporteur entirely on a volunteer basis, which is only possible if I meet
>> my obligations to my employer and our clients, devote some time to my
>> family, and attend to other responsibilities that may be pressing at any
>> given time.
>>
>> I look forward to your continued contributions to the work of the
>> Jurisdiction Subgroup.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Greg Shatan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <
>> kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Grec, I have no problem for moving that meeting by one day to
>>> Tuseday.
>>> But I insist that before the meeting we need a written history
>>> background Document as I have asked.
>>> I think this is absolutely necessary e to have a written doc. in
>>> addition to verbal explanation by SAM ,
>>> I do not understand why my e-mail has not been replied.
>>> Pls kindly explain.
>>> Herb is kindly requested to monitor the process as I will take the non
>>> reply formally to him and to the co-chairs that till now have not reacted
>>> even though I copied  my correspendenc to them as well
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The time change is OK with me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully we can devote all of the call to Q&A on OFAC and choice of
>>>> law and can dispense with the other stuff.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We might also provide a channel for advance submission of questions so
>>>> that the opportunity to ask questions is fairly distributed among different
>>>> subgroup participants.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Milton L. Mueller
>>>>
>>>> Professor, School of Public Policy
>>>>
>>>> Georgia Institute of Technology
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org [mailto:
>>>> ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Bernard Turcotte
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 26, 2017 6:26 PM
>>>> *To:* ws2-jurisdiction <ws2-jurisdiction at icann.org>; ACCT-Staff (
>>>> acct-staff at icann.org) <acct-staff at icann.org>
>>>> *Subject:* [Ws2-jurisdiction] CCWG-Accountability-WS2-Jurisdiction-Meeting
>>>> Scheduled for Wednesday 2 August 1300
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately Sam Eisner cannot join our Wednesday 2 August 1300
>>>> meeting but could participate on Tuesday 1 August 1300 to cover the topics
>>>> of OFAC and Choice of Law from the ICANN perspective.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As such Greg is suggesting that we move our scheduled meeting to
>>>> Tuesday 1 August 1300 and cancel the Wednesday 2 August 1300 meeting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please advise acct-staff at icann.org by 23:59 UTC 27 July if you have
>>>> serious objections to this change of date.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Greg will consider the responses and confirm his decision regarding
>>>> this by the EOB tomorrow to allow everyone to plan accordingly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For Greg Shatan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bernard Turcotte
>>>>
>>>> ICANN Support Staff to the CCWG-Accountability-WS2
>>>>
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>>>
>>
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