<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><font color="#002e7a" class="">I certainly missed some thing, but I think that the involvement of observers wasn’t clearly announced. can you please give me the link of the document where the role and rights of observers were defined???</font><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class="">Thank you for your help.</font></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 12 août 2016 à 00:59, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" class="">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">Tijani,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You are thinking of the roles of Members and Participants in the CCWG plenary.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Greg<span class=""></span><br class=""><div class=""><br class="">On Thursday, August 11, 2016, Tijani BEN JEMAA <<a href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn" class="">tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><font color="#002e7a" class="">I’m afraid I don’t have the same understanding of the observers’ involvement. Members and observers attend the calls and participate in the discussion. The only difference is that the observers don’t participate in the decision making.</font><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class="">I know that the co-chairs are on all lists, and I ask them to confirm or infirm.</font></div><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class=""> </font><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 11 août 2016 à 21:55, Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com');" target="_blank" class="">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">I support your view Grec</div><div class="">Kavouss </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">2016-08-11 22:49 GMT+02:00 Greg Shatan <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc@gmail.com');" target="_blank" class="">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">All,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I've been reviewing the results of the Doodle polls on call times, and I see that quite a number of votes came from "Observers."</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">As I understand it, "Observers" do not get invited to the calls. If you want to participate in the calls, you will need to upgrade your status to "Member." </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I think we will need to find a way to discount the votes of Observers when considering the results, since their time constraints should not affect the outcome (because they won't be on the calls...)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I appreciate the high level of compliance (another subgroup Rapporteur was concerned that their Doodle poll had zero responses), but I'm not sure why "Observers" voted at all.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Please let me know if I'm missing something.</div><span class=""><font color="#888888" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></font></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Greg Shatan <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc@gmail.com');" target="_blank" class="">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><b class=""><font color="#ff0000" class="">REMINDER: THE DOODLE POLLS WILL CLOSE TODAY, AUGUST 11, AT 23:59 UTC. PLEASE PARTICIPATE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO. THANK YOU.</font></b></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Greg Shatan <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc@gmail.com');" target="_blank" class="">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class=""><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on
Jurisdiction,</span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">I’m pleased to welcome you
to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this
subgroup. We look forward to working
with all of you.</span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">In order to get started we’ll
need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300
and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on
all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots
have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups).</span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">Initially, we expect to
have one 1-hour call each week. In order
to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls: </span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">1. <u class="">Best time(s) of day
for you</u>. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a <b class="">day and time </b>poll only, for the ongoing work of this group<b class="">. Please
ignore the specific dates next week.</b>
(For your convenience, times are
shown in your time zone, not UTC.)</span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">LINK TO DOODLE POLL: <a href="http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr" target="_blank" class="">http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gme<wbr class="">haa6muhgr</a>
</span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">2. <u class="">Rotation vs. fixed time</u>. </span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">LINK TO DOODLE POLL: <a href="http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b" target="_blank" class="">http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3g<wbr class="">fgzq4h62b</a>
</span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">Please respond by <b class="">23:59 UTC</b> on <b class="">Thursday, August 11</b>, so that we can get our process underway.</span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">Best regards,</span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">Greg Shatan</span></p></div></div>
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