<div dir="ltr"><div>Jijani</div><div>The concept of observer is clear</div><div>The Person who participate at the meeting without the right to express any views without o the consent of the chair .</div><div>He or she can not intervene more than once unless the lisse i directly touches his or her interest It shall noz eligible to vote</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-08-13 20:06 GMT+02:00 Seun Ojedeji <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">As I am observer, this most likely would not reach the mailing list(which is right), what may not be accurate(which i also noted to Greg) is that observers are not restricted from joining the calls. They can indeed participate in the call if they so wish. So Tijani's understanding is somewhat how I understood this as well.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Perhaps in the interest of saving funds, observers who wants to join the call may only use the AC and not receive special dialout.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards</p>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 13 Aug 2016 18:51, "Tijani BEN JEMAA" <<a href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn" target="_blank">tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div style="-ms-word-wrap: break-word;"><font color="#002e7a">Kavouss,</font><div><font color="#002e7a"><br></font></div><div><font color="#002e7a">There is no mention of « Observers » in the CCWG Charter.</font></div><div><br><div>
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<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Le 13 août 2016 à 00:18, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :</div><br><div><div style="font:14px/normal Helvetica;text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal" dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks, Vinay! You are correct.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The page where the roles are discussed is here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Iw5yn9GRk8RcnTJzclwB-JuSe3B6JugEj_0oGOCseqU/edit" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/1Iw5yn9GRk8RcnTJzcl<wbr>wB-JuSe3B6JugEj_0oGOCseqU/edit</a><span><wbr> </span> The document states that observers will not actively participate and will not have posting rights to the list. I believe the role of observers was also described on at least one of the CCWG calls, as well.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font:14px/normal Helvetica;text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Vinay Kesari<span> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vinay.kesari@gmail.com" target="_blank">vinay.kesari@gmail.com</a><wbr>></span><span> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr">Hi Parminder,<div><br></div><div>1. People can check their status here: <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Jurisdiction" target="_blank">https://community.icann.<wbr>org/display/WEIA/Jurisdiction</a></div><div><br></div><div>2. Anyone can change their status from 'observer' to 'active participant' at any time. I believe the appropriate way would be to get in touch with staff at <<a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org" target="_blank">acct-staff@icann.org</a>> and simply request a change. You may perhaps be asked to fill out a Statement of Interest if you haven't already, but I don't think there are any other requirements. As far as you're concerned I think you're an active participant already. Happy to be corrected on all of this by anyone though.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Vinay</div><div><br></div><div>PS: Taking the liberty of responding since Greg will likely (hopefully?) be asleep at this point. :)</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 12 August 2016 at 09:51, parminder<span> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchan<wbr>ge.net</a>></span><span> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><span><p><br></p><br><div>On Friday 12 August 2016 02:19 AM, Greg Shatan wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">All,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I've been reviewing the results of the Doodle polls on call times, and I see that quite a number of votes came from "Observers."</div></div></blockquote><br></span>Thanks Greg. Two things;<br>1. How to know one's status?<br>2. Can one simply upgrade oneself from observer to member.<br><br>best, parminder<span> </span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">As I understand it, "Observers" do not get invited to the calls. If you want to participate in the calls, you will need to upgrade your status to "Member." </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I think we will need to find a way to discount the votes of Observers when considering the results, since their time constraints should not affect the outcome (because they won't be on the calls...)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I appreciate the high level of compliance (another subgroup Rapporteur was concerned that their Doodle poll had zero responses), but I'm not sure why "Observers" voted at all.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Please let me know if I'm missing something.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Greg Shatan<span> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.co<wbr>m</a>></span><span> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><b><font color="#ff0000">REMINDER: THE DOODLE POLLS WILL CLOSE TODAY, AUGUST 11, AT 23:59 UTC. PLEASE PARTICIPATE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO. THANK YOU.</font></b></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Greg Shatan<span> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.co<wbr>m</a>></span><span> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on Jurisdiction,</span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this subgroup. We look forward to working with all of you.</span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300 and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups).</span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week. In order to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls:<span> </span></span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">1.<span> </span><u>Best time(s) of day for you</u>. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a<span> </span><b>day and time<span> </span></b>poll only, for the ongoing work of this group<b>. Please ignore the specific dates next week.</b> <span> </span>(For your convenience, times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.)</span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">LINK TO DOODLE POLL:<span> </span><a href="http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr" target="_blank">http://doodle.com/poll/i<wbr>9g3gmehaa6muhgr</a></span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">2. <span> </span><u>Rotation vs. fixed time</u>. <span> </span></span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">LINK TO DOODLE POLL:<span> </span><a href="http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b" target="_blank">http://doodle.com/poll/2<wbr>ypry3gfgzq4h62b</a></span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Please respond by<span> </span><b>23:59 UTC</b><span> </span>on<span> </span><b>Thursday, August 11</b>, so that we can get our process underway.</span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Best regards,</span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Greg Shatan</span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div><br><fieldset></fieldset><br></span><span><pre>______________________________<wbr>_________________
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