<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><font color="#002e7a" class="">Thanks Greg,</font><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class="">I made the same search and found the same result.</font></div><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class="">I subscribed to the Jurisdiction Sub-Group as an observer, but when you said that observers don’t have to fill the doodle in, I immediately asked the staff to become member, and I’m now member. That’s why I can post to the mailing list.</font></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 14 août 2016 à 01:52, Edward Morris <<a href="mailto:egmorris1@toast.net" class="">egmorris1@toast.net</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">Thanks Greg.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This is an issue popping up in multiple subgroups - thanks for taking the lead and getting an answer for all of us.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ed</div><div class=""><br class=""><br class="">Sent from my iPhone</div><div class=""><br class="">On 14 Aug 2016, at 01:03, Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" class="">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Based on this thread, it doesn't appear that there's a clear understanding of the role of "Observers" in Work Stream 2 Subgroups. The transcripts of the CCWG F2F in Helsinki and the next meeting after that don't shed any additional light on the matter. (There's no transcript for the most recent meeting yet.)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" class="">The CCWG Wiki pages say that a Subgroup's </font><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);font-size:small" class="">Observers (1) don't "actively participate" in the subgroup and (2) won't have posting rights on the list. There's nothing specific about the Observers and the calls, but there's a note that </span><span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class="">anyone (not just </span><span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class="">Subgroup "Observers"</span><span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class="">) can be a "silent observer" of any Subgroup call.</span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class="">Rather than speculating further, or exploring the formulations proposed on this thread (which I didn't see any support for in my review of CCWG materials) I will ask CCWG leadership and staff support to clarify the role of the Observers for <u class="">all</u> the Subgroups, including these specific points:</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">1. Will Observers get call invitations?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">2. Can Observers join Adobe Connect and/or phone bridge for the call?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">3. If yes, can Observers speak and/or write in the chat, or are they required to be silent/non-participating?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">4. Do Observers receive the mailing list posts along with everyone else?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">5. Will Observers have posting rights to the email list?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I don't see any answers to these questions, except 5, and that's not quite settled, because Observers in this group have posted to this list.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Let's see what we hear.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" class="">P.S. If you really want more detail on this, please see below....</font><br class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I found the following information on CCWG wiki pages:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">1. The wiki page for the Jurisdiction subgroup (<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Jurisdiction" target="_blank" class="">https://community.icann.org/<wbr class="">display/WEIA/Jurisdiction</a>) says:<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default"><br class=""></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default"><b class="">Active Participants</b> engage in the day-to-day discussions of the particular topic. Each active participant is expected to spend at least 3-5 hours per week on sub-group work and will have posting rights to the mailing list.</div><div class="gmail_default"><br class=""></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default"><b class="">Observers</b> follow the topic discussion but not actively participate at the sub-group level. Observers are not expected to spend time on sub-group work and will not have posting rights to the mailing list.</div></div></blockquote><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">2. The wiki page for WS2 plenary meetings (<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Meetings+-+WS2+Plenary" target="_blank" class="">https://community.icann.org/<wbr class="">display/WEIA/Meetings+-+WS2+<wbr class="">Plenary</a>) says:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px" class=""><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="">This Adobe Connect Room is open for </span><b style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class=""><u class="">Subgroup</u></b><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class=""> meetings to any and all silent observers: <a href="https://icann.adobeconnect.com/mssi-projects" target="_blank" class="">https://icann.adobeconnect.<wbr class="">com/mssi-projects</a></span></blockquote><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" class=""> The exact meaning of "not actively participating" is not further explained. I have also noticed that people who are signed up as "Observers" have successfully posted to the list. So I don't think any of this information can lead to any absolute conclusions on the role of Observers in the Subgroups.</font></div><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" class="">In GNSO Working Groups, it is clear that Members receive call invitations (with Adobe Connect and dial-in info) and may log in and participate fully in those calls, and have rights to receive and post to the mailing list. On the other hand, it is clear that GNSO WG Observers do not receive the call invitations and do not have posting rights to the mailing list. As a rule, Observers do not attend the calls; if they want to follow the calls, they can use the recordings and transcripts. But the CCWG is not a GNSO WG, so these roles don't lead to absolute conclusions about Observers in the CCWG Subgroups either.</font></div><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com');" target="_blank" class="">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Jijani</div><div class="">The concept of observer is clear</div><div class="">The Person who participate at the meeting without the right to express any views without o the consent of the chair .</div><div class="">He or she can not intervene more than once unless the lisse i directly touches his or her interest It shall noz eligible to vote</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">2016-08-13 20:06 GMT+02:00 Seun Ojedeji <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','seun.ojedeji@gmail.com');" target="_blank" class="">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr" class="">As I am observer, this most likely would not reach the mailing list(which is right), what may not be accurate(which i also noted to Greg) is that observers are not restricted from joining the calls. They can indeed participate in the call if they so wish. So Tijani's understanding is somewhat how I understood this as well.</p><p dir="ltr" class="">Perhaps in the interest of saving funds, observers who wants to join the call may only use the AC and not receive special dialout.</p><span class=""><p dir="ltr" class="">Regards</p><p dir="ltr" class="">Sent from my LG G4<br class="">
Kindly excuse brevity and typos</p></span><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">
<div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On 13 Aug 2016 18:51, "Tijani BEN JEMAA" <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn');" target="_blank" class="">tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class="">Kavouss,</font><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class="">There is no mention of « Observers » in the CCWG Charter.</font></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
<div style="text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal;" class=""><div style="text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal;" class=""><div style="text-indent:0px" class=""><div style="text-indent:0px" class=""><div style="text-indent:0px" class=""><div style="text-transform: none; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal;" class=""><span style="color:rgb(54,95,145)" class="">------------------------------<wbr class="">------------------------------<wbr class="">-----------------</span></div><div style="text-transform: none; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal;" class=""><b class=""><span style="color:rgb(54,95,145)" class="">Tijani BEN JEMAA</span></b></div><div style="text-transform: none; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal;" class=""><span style="color:rgb(54,95,145)" class="">Executive Director</span></div><div style="text-transform: none; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal;" class=""><span style="color:rgb(54,95,145)" class="">Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (</span><b style="color:rgb(54,95,145)" class="">FMAI</b><span style="color:rgb(54,95,145)" class="">)</span></div><div style="text-transform: none; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal;" class=""><span style="color:rgb(54,95,145)" class="">Phone: <a href="tel:%2B216%2098%20330%20114" value="+21698330114" target="_blank" class="">+216 98 330 114</a></span></div><div style="text-transform: none; letter-spacing: normal; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal;" class=""><span style="color:rgb(54,95,145)" class=""> </span> <span style="color:rgb(54,95,145)" class=""><a href="tel:%2B216%2052%20385%20114" value="+21652385114" target="_blank" class="">+216 52 385 114</a></span></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(54,95,145)" class="">------------------------------<wbr class="">------------------------------<wbr class="">-----------------</span></div><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 13 août 2016 à 18:20, Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com');" target="_blank" class="">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Tijani</div><div class="">Peut être la définition se trouve dans notre Charter</div><div class=""> Salutations</div><div class="">Kavouss </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">2016-08-13 19:07 GMT+02:00 Tijani BEN JEMAA <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn');" target="_blank" class="">tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn</a>></span>:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class="">Bonsoir Alain,</font><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class="">Je ne trouve pas de définition des observateurs pour les sous-groupes du WS 2. Maintenant, et d’une manière informelle, ils donnent aux observateurs le statut de « voyeurs » passifs.</font></div><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class="">Au plaisir de te revoir à Hyderabad</font></div><div class=""><font color="#002e7a" class=""> </font><br class=""><div class="">
<div style="text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal" class=""><div style="text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal" class=""><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(54,95,145)" class="">------------------------------<wbr class="">------------------------------<wbr class="">-----------------</span></div><div class=""><b class=""><span style="color:rgb(54,95,145)" class="">Tijani BEN JEMAA</span></b></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(54,95,145)" class="">Directeur Exécutif </span></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(54,95,145)" class="">Fédération Méditerranéenne des associations d'Internet (</span><b style="color:rgb(54,95,145)" class="">FMAI</b><span style="color:rgb(54,95,145)" class="">)</span></div><span class=""><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(54,95,145)" class="">Phone: <a href="tel:%2B216%2098%20330%20114" value="+21698330114" target="_blank" class="">+216 98 330 114</a></span></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(54,95,145)" class=""> </span> <span style="color:rgb(54,95,145)" class=""> <a href="tel:%2B216%2052%20385%20114" value="+21652385114" target="_blank" class="">+216 52 385 114</a></span></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(54,95,145)" class="">------------------------------<wbr class="">------------------------------<wbr class="">-----------------</span> </div></span></div><br class=""></div><br class=""><br class="">
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<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Le 13 août 2016 à 00:18, Greg Shatan <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc@gmail.com');" target="_blank" class="">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :</div><br class=""><div class=""><div style="font:14px/normal Helvetica;text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal" dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks, Vinay! You are correct.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The page where the roles are discussed is here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Iw5yn9GRk8RcnTJzclwB-JuSe3B6JugEj_0oGOCseqU/edit" target="_blank" class="">https://docs.google.com/<wbr class="">document/d/1Iw5yn9GRk8RcnTJzcl<wbr class="">wB-JuSe3B6JugEj_0oGOCseqU/edit</a><span class=""><wbr class=""> </span> The document states that observers will not actively participate and will not have posting rights to the list. I believe the role of observers was also described on at least one of the CCWG calls, as well.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font:14px/normal Helvetica;text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Vinay Kesari<span class=""> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','vinay.kesari@gmail.com');" target="_blank" class="">vinay.kesari@gmail.com</a><wbr class="">></span><span class=""> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr" class="">Hi Parminder,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1. People can check their status here: <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Jurisdiction" target="_blank" class="">https://community.icann.<wbr class="">org/display/WEIA/Jurisdiction</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">2. Anyone can change their status from 'observer' to 'active participant' at any time. I believe the appropriate way would be to get in touch with staff at <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','acct-staff@icann.org');" target="_blank" class="">acct-staff@icann.org</a>> and simply request a change. You may perhaps be asked to fill out a Statement of Interest if you haven't already, but I don't think there are any other requirements. As far as you're concerned I think you're an active participant already. Happy to be corrected on all of this by anyone though.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards,</div><div class="">Vinay</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">PS: Taking the liberty of responding since Greg will likely (hopefully?) be asleep at this point. :)</div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On 12 August 2016 at 09:51, parminder<span class=""> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','parminder@itforchange.net');" target="_blank" class="">parminder@itforchan<wbr class="">ge.net</a>></span><span class=""> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><span class=""><p class=""><br class=""></p><br class=""><div class="">On Friday 12 August 2016 02:19 AM, Greg Shatan wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">All,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I've been reviewing the results of the Doodle polls on call times, and I see that quite a number of votes came from "Observers."</div></div></blockquote><br class=""></span>Thanks Greg. Two things;<br class="">1. How to know one's status?<br class="">2. Can one simply upgrade oneself from observer to member.<br class=""><br class="">best, parminder<span class=""> </span><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">As I understand it, "Observers" do not get invited to the calls. If you want to participate in the calls, you will need to upgrade your status to "Member." </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I think we will need to find a way to discount the votes of Observers when considering the results, since their time constraints should not affect the outcome (because they won't be on the calls...)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I appreciate the high level of compliance (another subgroup Rapporteur was concerned that their Doodle poll had zero responses), but I'm not sure why "Observers" voted at all.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Please let me know if I'm missing something.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Greg Shatan<span class=""> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc@gmail.com');" target="_blank" class="">gregshatanipc@gmail.co<wbr class="">m</a>></span><span class=""> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><b class=""><font color="#ff0000" class="">REMINDER: THE DOODLE POLLS WILL CLOSE TODAY, AUGUST 11, AT 23:59 UTC. PLEASE PARTICIPATE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO. THANK YOU.</font></b></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Greg Shatan<span class=""> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gregshatanipc@gmail.com');" target="_blank" class="">gregshatanipc@gmail.co<wbr class="">m</a>></span><span class=""> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class=""><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">Dear Participants in the CCWG-Accountability WS2 Subgroup on Jurisdiction,</span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">I’m pleased to welcome you to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup on behalf of myself and Vinay Kesari. Vinay and I are co-rapporteurs of this subgroup. We look forward to working with all of you.</span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">In order to get started we’ll need to determine the best time or times to have Subgroup calls. The Subgroups can have meetings at 0500, 1300 and 1900 UTC. There are slots available on all days of the week (but not all slots are available on all days, since slots have already been taken by the CCWG and by other subgroups).</span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">Initially, we expect to have one 1-hour call each week. In order to determine when to have these calls, we have set up two Doodle polls:<span class=""> </span></span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">1.<span class=""> </span><u class="">Best time(s) of day for you</u>. IMPORTANT NOTES: This is a<span class=""> </span><b class="">day and time<span class=""> </span></b>poll only, for the ongoing work of this group<b class="">. Please ignore the specific dates next week.</b> <span class=""> </span>(For your convenience, times are shown in your time zone, not UTC.)</span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">LINK TO DOODLE POLL:<span class=""> </span><a href="http://doodle.com/poll/i9g3gmehaa6muhgr" target="_blank" class="">http://doodle.com/poll/i<wbr class="">9g3gmehaa6muhgr</a></span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">2. <span class=""> </span><u class="">Rotation vs. fixed time</u>. <span class=""> </span></span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">LINK TO DOODLE POLL:<span class=""> </span><a href="http://doodle.com/poll/2ypry3gfgzq4h62b" target="_blank" class="">http://doodle.com/poll/2<wbr class="">ypry3gfgzq4h62b</a></span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">Please respond by<span class=""> </span><b class="">23:59 UTC</b><span class=""> </span>on<span class=""> </span><b class="">Thursday, August 11</b>, so that we can get our process underway.</span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">Best regards,</span></p><p style="text-indent:0in;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">Greg Shatan</span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div><br class=""><fieldset class=""></fieldset><br class=""></span><span class=""><pre class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________
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