<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear All, I understood that some documents would be available on Sunday at 13,00 hrs UTC.</div><div>Does that doc, is published ?</div><div>If yes ,could someone forward a copy to me pls.</div><div>Regards</div><div>Kavouss </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-10-29 10:30 GMT+02:00 parminder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p><font face="Verdana">Dear Chairs Greg and Vinay,</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">Thanks for the below.</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">For such an important document that goes out
in the name of the sub group, one would expect to be given more
time to comment and agree on than just 24 hours. i do not
consider this process robust enough to say that this doc comes
on the behalf of the group, and to make comments like 'the group
has determined......". At least 2-3 days are needed to agree to
such a document, to be able to call it a group's document. That
would be the normal process in any elist based process.</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">I specifically disassociate myself from the
following: <br>
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<p style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0.42cm"><font face="Verdana">"</font>After some initial discussions, the
Subgroup determined that changing ICANN's headquarters or
incorporation jurisdiction will not be further investigated at
this time. However, if an issue is identified by the Subgroup
during its work, and the Subgroup can’t find another solution to
resolve this issue, we will revisit and examine this concept in
the context of the identified issue."</p>
<p style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0.42cm">1. I saw no
process whereby it can be said the subgroup 'determined' in this
manner. In all prior discussions the opinion on this point has
been divided - whether this issue continues to be discussed or
not..</p>
<p style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0.42cm">2. There are
many open issues on the table and so can this issue also remain.
Why do we need to 'specifically' close or put aside an important
issue, or possible solution? This to me appears to suggest a
strong prejudice, to which I cannot be a party. I must mention
here that while I consider the application of public law (or as
Greg says, in transcript of the online meeting, issues related to
the power of the state) a central one here, I do not think that
moving ICANN's jurisdiction is the only solution in this regard.
However, to specifically put aside this issue does not make any
sense to me other than to suggest a strong aversion to this
possibility, something which I dont see the subgroup having
arrived at anything that can remotely resemble a consensus. <br>
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<p style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0.42cm">I can understand
people have different views here, but what I cannot understand is
the desire to foreclose discussions on important issues. <br>
</p>
<p style="line-height:100%;margin-bottom:0.42cm">Best regards,
parminder <br>
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<div class="m_-4001306819667830301moz-cite-prefix">On Friday 28 October 2016 02:26 AM,
Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">All, </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Here is a link to the
draft Status Update Google doc, for your changes and
comments. I need to review the requirements for this document
and may make some changes as well, but I don't anticipate
making significant changes to the text we discussed on today's
call, beyond those in the document now. </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ie4ysgSH97tMciUvAYfk86USOCoIdK6aMQ9QWS2GJik/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/<wbr>1ie4ysgSH97tMciUvAYfk86USOCoId<wbr>K6aMQ9QWS2GJik/edit?usp=<wbr>sharing</a></font><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The document will
become stable at 16:00 UTC tomorrow (Friday, October 28), and
will be sent to the CCWG staff in anticipation of next week's
F2F.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">A copy is also attached
for those who have difficulty accessing Google Docs.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thank you for your
comments.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Best regards,</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div>
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