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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In the poll conducted in December last year, I could not support Q4. However, I can support Q4 as formulated in David's /Steve's mail below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I have no problems with this Q4 version been distributed together with Q1-3.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Fra:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org]
<b>På vegne af </b>Steve DelBianco<br>
<b>Sendt:</b> 9. januar 2017 22:17<br>
<b>Til:</b> Paul Rosenzweig; 'matthew shears'; 'McAuley, David'; ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org<br>
<b>Emne:</b> Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction] Jurisdiction Questionnaire: RESPONSE REQUESTED<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">On our prior Jurisdiction call, I did not support the proposed question 4 or any of the 7 alternatives. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">But I'd like to support David McAuley’s restatement of question 4 (below) as a compromise that could allow us to gather useful evidence and information — not just opinions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";background:yellow">Are you aware of any material, documented instance(s) where ICANN has been unable to pursue
its Mission because of its jurisdiction? If so, please provide documentation.</span></i><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";background:yellow">Are you aware of and able to document the existence of an alternative jurisdiction where ICANN would not be so prevented from pursuing its Mission? If so, please provide
documentation.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><<a href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org">ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Paul Rosenzweig <<a href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, January 9, 2017 at 2:03 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I agree completely with David and Matthew. In particular this:</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">“DM: Current jurisdiction has worked well for nineteen years and we just finished reorganizing things
at great expense to better fit within California with enforceable Empowered Community powers. Is WS2 to change that?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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MS: That is clearly not this group's mandate.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org">ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org">mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>matthew shears<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 8, 2017 2:23 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">David, all</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I am similarly concerned. Please see inline<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">On 07/01/2017 21:55, McAuley, David wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">In my personal opinion we are wandering blindly into unwise, unacceptable territory – very possibly
inviting a quagmire of suppositions and opinions that would pose the near certainty of derailing our work.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Agreed and I have a related concern. As far as I am aware we have not defined nor agreed what purpose/end the results of the questionnaire would be put. And how we would deal with the results, what weight the results would be given in determining our direction
or way forward, or more importantly, any "findings" of the group (although I am a little at a loss to think how we might agree them).<br>
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Given the lackluster support for the various alternatives on the last call I am concerned that there seems to be little support, or an acceptable level of comfort, for this approach as a whole.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">We should not let the perfect be the enemy of the good, but I am unconvinced that the questionnaire
as currently proposed could actually lead to a “good” outcome so I don’t see the good at peril here.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">If we conclude that a questionnaire must go out then I support questions 1-3 as widely supported in
the survey we did – with no question 4. </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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This would be my preference as well, especially as some of the alternate versions for Q4 seems to go far beyond the relatively limited mandate of this group.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">If any form of Q4 is to be included it must be fact-based, not opinion-based. Here is what I suggest
as a compromise path to resolve the Q4 issue – basically one question in two parts:</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";background:yellow">Are you aware of any material, documented instance(s) where ICANN has been unable to pursue its Mission because of its jurisdiction? If so, please provide documentation.</span></i><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";background:yellow"> </span></i><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";background:yellow">Are you aware of and able to document the existence of an alternative jurisdiction where ICANN would not be so prevented from pursuing its Mission? If so, please
provide documentation.</span></i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Such a questionnaire could of course lead to a full-scale legal due-diligence exercise for suggested
alternatives as we recently did with respect to California in Work Stream One (because we would need a demonstration that any such alternative, while possibly solving one perceived problem, did not allow others).
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Current jurisdiction has worked well for nineteen years and we just finished reorganizing things at
great expense to better fit within California with enforceable Empowered Community powers. Is WS2 to change that?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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That is clearly not this group's mandate.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I think we have a different mission than that to accomplish by June. Our mission is essentially to
look at settlement of dispute jurisdiction issues and right now that seems like plenty to try to get done by June.
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Agreed.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">That Q4 is still under consideration, after failing to gain a clear consensus and even getting substantially
less support than question 5 (which basically asked if Q’s 1-3 should go out if Q4 was rejected), is puzzling. How can we release Q4 in these circumstances?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">This is too important to “wing it and let’s see what happens.” We don’t do survey questions for a
living. Don’t we at least need to guarantee that our questions stay within ICANN’s mission and call for answers to do the same? Mathieu, as I recall, said in chat that respondents often go beyond the bounds of what is asked – that tendency itself seems enough
to delete Question 4 at the very least. </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">We should just look at the jurisdiction of contracts and dispute settlements, as paragraph 06 of the
Final Report puts it. </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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A reasonable place to "restart" our work, I would suggest.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Finally, the questionnaire is sensitive enough that we will likely encounter the same debate when
we run it by the full CCWG. </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Most likely.<br>
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Matthew<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">703-948-4154</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org">ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org">mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 07, 2017 1:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ws2-jurisdiction<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] [Ws2-jurisdiction] Jurisdiction Questionnaire: RESPONSE REQUESTED</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">All,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">We made some good progress on our call on Friday, January 6. Following a wide-ranging discussion, we were able to
make some headway on refining the draft questionnaire. I encourage those who missed the call to review the recording and notes. </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Specifically, we came to a preliminary conclusion on revising the Preamble and Question 1, subject to comment on this
list and a final discussion on our next call (Tuesday, January 10 at 13:00). Question 2 had no revisions suggested, and Question 3 had only one revision suggested.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">The Preamble and Questions 1, 2 and 3 (with the proposed revision in "track changes") are in the first document below
(Word and PDF documents) and also in text below. <b>Please review this version of the Preamble and Questions 1-3 and provide support (or lack of support) and/or comments for this portion.</b></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">We also discussed several aspects of Question 4, including the purpose of the question; whether the question is different
in nature from Questions 1-3; whether or not the question should be included in this questionnaire, a subsequent questionnaire or not at all; the types of responses desired (and the types expected); and the drafting of the question itself. With these topics
and seven drafting alternatives (and the ability to pick and choose elements of those alternatives), this required more time than we had left on the call. Therefore, we did not come to any preliminary conclusions on Question 4. </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">The drafting alternatives for Question 4 (including the current version) are in the second draft document (Word and
PDF). Please look at the alternatives carefully, particularly if you have not supported sending question 4 in its current form.
<b> Please review the options for Question 4 and respond, indicating (a) Which version(s) of Question 4 you could support and which you would object to, and (b) If the answer to (a) is "none," how you would change or combine one or more alternatives in order
to support it.</b></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Thank you.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">The newly-adopted ICANN bylaws created several Work Stream 2 accountability subgroups. One of them, the subgroup on Jurisdiction,
is posing the questions below for community input into the subgroup’s deliberations.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">As directed by
<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en/#article27">Bylaw Article 27, Section 27.1(b)(vi)</a> and to the extent set forth in the CCWG-Accountability
<a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=58723827&preview=/58723827/58726532/Main%20Report%20-%20FINAL-Revised.pdf">
Final Report</a>,<a name="_ftnref1"><span class="gmail-msofootnotereference">[1]</span></a> the Jurisdiction subgroup is addressing jurisdiction*-related questions, including how choice of jurisdiction and applicable laws for dispute settlement impact ICANN's
accountability and the actual operation of policies.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">To help the subgroup in these endeavors we are asking you to consider and respond to the following specific questions. In this
regard, the subgroup is asking for concrete, factual submissions (positive, negative, or neutral) that will help ensure that the subgroup’s deliberations are informed, fact-based, and address real issues. The subgroup is interested in all types of jurisdiction-related
factual experiences, not just those involving actual disputes/court cases.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msobodytext" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">QUESTION 1</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Has your business, your privacy or your ability to use or purchase domain name-related services been affected by ICANN's jurisdiction*
in any way?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msobodytext"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">If the answer is Yes, please describe specific cases, situations or incidents, including the date, the parties involved, and links to any relevant documents. Please note
that “affected” may refer to positive and/or negative effects.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msobodytext" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">QUESTION 2</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Has ICANN's jurisdiction* affected any dispute resolution process or litigation related to domain names you have been involved
in?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msobodytext"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">If the answer is Yes, please describe specific cases, situations or incidents, including the date, the parties involved, and links to any relevant documents. Please note
that “affected” may refer to positive and/or negative effects.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msobodytext" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">QUESTION 3</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Do you have copies of and/or links to any verifiable reports of experiences of other parties that would be responsive to the
questions above?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-msobodytext"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">If the answer is yes, please provide these copies and/or links.<span class="msoins0"><span class="msoIns"><ins cite="mailto:Greg%20Shatan" datetime="2017-01-06T13:38"> </ins></span></span></span><span class="msoins0"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red"><span class="msoIns"><ins cite="mailto:Greg%20Shatan" datetime="2017-01-06T13:38">
Please provide either first-person accounts or reliable third-party accounts such as news reports; please do not provide your own version of events.</ins></span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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CCWG-Accountability Main Report, paragraphs 6 and 234, and Annex 12, paragraphs 25-31.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">For this Questionnaire, “ICANN’s jurisdiction” refers to (a) ICANN being subject to U.S. and California law as a result of its incorporation and location in California, (b)
ICANN being subject to the laws of any other country as a result of its location within or contacts with that country, or (c) any “choice of law” or venue provisions in agreements with ICANN. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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