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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Saturday 21 January 2017 02:58 AM,
farzaneh badii wrote:<br>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Here is a blog post on
ICANN's jurisdiction and sanctions. <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.internetgovernance.org/2017/01/13/icanns-jurisdiction-sanctions-and-domain-names/">http://www.internetgovernance.org/2017/01/13/icanns-jurisdiction-sanctions-and-domain-names/</a></div>
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the issues before but the blog post is more consolidated. Hope
it is useful for the work of this group.</div>
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Dear Farzaneh,<br>
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Thanks for this meticulous and useful work. <br>
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I have two comments to offer. Firstly, OFAC are just one kinds of
sanctions that outside entities may be faced with. There could be
other kinds related to commercial issues, like intellectual
property, that businesses of other countries can face in the US,
whether arising from a court order or that of an executive/
regulatory agency. <br>
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<a
href="http://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/dutch-customs-seize-indian-drugs-in-transit-industry-frets-112012300081_1.html">Here
is an example</a> of an EU government seizing, on US request,
generic drugs being exported from India to Brazil. While this
dispute is at the WTO, there is no question that if a US
organisation (including non profit) were in any way helping or
facilitating such a trade between India and US it will be forced to
withdraw help/ facilitation by a US court or executive agency. Lets
now assume that the hypothetical Indian exporter had a gTLD
.genericdrugs which domain space was employed inter alia to
facilitate its global business. The US law, through courts or
executive agencies, would easily come in to disable it if it can -
and it indeed can through its jurisdictional oversight over ICANN. <br>
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Now we come to the crucial part of what are the solutions that we
may have. <br>
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You suggest that ICANN gets some kind of a general OFAC waiver.
Firstly, as described above there are many other ways and basis for
interference by the US government with the DNS beyond OFAC .
Therefore we will need to get intellectual property violation
waiver, lottery activity waiver, and innumerable others. In the
circumstances, the real waiver across all sectors and laws would be
seek immunity under the US International Organisations Immunity Act.
Would you not prefer this route? If not, why so? <br>
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Secondly, no waiver is permanent, as we can very well judge from the
Trump's administration's various activities. US is a democracy, and
people have a right to change their governments, and the government
have the right to change policies and laws. That would happen all
the time. And we must act as if changes will happen rather than that
they wont. Yes, even immunity under the mentioned US Act can be
rolled back, and therefore international law and incorporation is
the only real solution. However, to withdraw statutory immunity is
so much more difficult. Plus there would be time, if this is
attempted, for ICANN to even seek to make "alternative arrangements"
outside the US.<br>
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parminder <br>
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