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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hello all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The notes, recordings and transcripts for CCWG Accountability WS2&nbsp;Jurisdiction Subgroup Meeting #26&nbsp;– 11 April 2017 will be available here:&nbsp;
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/U7-RAw">https://community.icann.org/x/U7-RAw</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">&nbsp;A copy of the action items and notes may be found below.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">With kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Brenda Brewer,</span></i></b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Projects &amp; Operations Assistant&nbsp;</span></i><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Multistakeholder Strategy &amp; Strategic Initiatives (MSSI)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Action Items:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Greg Shatan – To review work plan presentation for plenary per comments.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:22.5pt;background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Notes (includes relevant text from chat):<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">1.&nbsp; Welcome</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">2.&nbsp; Review of Agenda</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Greg Shatan - changes? (none).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Paul McGrady: Greg - special thanks for making this call on an important holiday<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">3.&nbsp; Administration</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<b>3.1. Changes to SOIs (none)</b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Number Participants -</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">&nbsp;None<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">4.&nbsp; Review of decisions and action items from last call</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4.1. Decisions – none<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4.2. Action Items:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4.2.1.&nbsp; GS to prepare and post and draft on working methods and status of the sub-group to the sub-group prior to presenting
 it to the plenary on 12 April (status?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">5.&nbsp; Review of Working Method</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5.1. Discussion of draft for plenary.</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Greg Shatan - (presentation of document) Looking to have a draft for ICANN59 for first reading.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Mathieu Weill - Strong support for this. This demonstrates progress. Suggestion to add to include how much work has been done on list where there were lists of issues which we should get back to
 - even if there was no agreement on this - some sort of summary of the key threads. Second suggestion - looking forward - wondering if we would not achieve more by meeting less frequently.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Greg Shatan - good points.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">David McAuley - Agree with MW trying to get IOT to pivot to do more work on list. On you&nbsp; April item - tee up those things well in advance and encourage people to understand the positions but not
 have people rehash knows positions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Greg Shatan - good thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Paul McGrady: &#43;1 David.&nbsp; Team members should also review what the Board Chair has said about this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Steve DelBianco - ICANN legal responses seem to validate what many people’s positions - would it modify the workplan?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Greg Shatan - makes the workplan more realistic - hope it will assist us greatly in our work. There is a connection between scope, discussions on list and not meeting every week - would require
 more discipline.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">avri doria: it is wonderful that rapporteurs want people to work more on the list.&nbsp; But will wishing make it so.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">David McAuley (RySG): one reason we may be able to do more on list in IRP IOT is that we are dealing now with discrete public comments<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">avri doria: it is just that i have often tried, but long since gave up on that goal.&nbsp; best of luck.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Greg Shatan - any objections to using this for the plenary with edits as per suggestions (none).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">David McAuley (RySG): fair points Avri, but I am hoping your wish of good luck comes true<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">avri doria: i will note that it is the intent we had when we startted the work on the Staff Accountabilty subgroup. While some work got done is shared online documents, almost none got done n the
 list. YMMV (your mileage may vary, an expression for you results may be different)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 6.1. Walk through response from ICANN Legal identify any issues</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Greg Shatan - (presentation of ICANN Legal response)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Becky Burr 3: But it is clearly correct to say that many - if not most - countries will provide jurisdiction in a case where ICANN has purposely availed itself of the jurisdiction<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Steve DelBianco [BC]: Couldn't a litigant just review prior cases to determine where/how ICANN responds to claims of jurisdiction?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Mathieu Weill: @Steve : our finding was that there is no prior case&nbsp; outside of the US<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Becky Burr - These answers are a little frustrating - the jurisdiction issue is common defense - but this is tied to the facts of any case.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Paul McGrady: I'm not surprised by the ICANN Legal answer to #7.&nbsp; They would be nuts to answer such a question.&nbsp; I'm not saying the WG should not have asked it, but the answer was entirely predictable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Becky Burr 3: agree Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">David McAuley - Agree with BB. Ground prepared if we want to seek further advice.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Mathieu Weill: Would suggest a follow up question about the 10 Ry, non gov, who picked Geneva : have all requests been granted ? were there criteria and, if so, which ones ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Mathieu Weill: Also note that the absence of alternative for Registrar Agreements may be a topic to discus within this group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Paul MCGrady - re no third party beneficiaries - New gTLDs re .FEEDBACK - so this needs to looked at deeper but probably not ICANN legal.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Greg Shatan - maybe better to say there are no express TPB.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">David McAuley (RySG): I thought that the existence of third party beneficiaries to contracts was usually a public policy matter in the jurisdiction in which litigation exists<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Mathieu Weill - this is very helpful from ICANN legal (see above point from MW).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Wale Bakare: Absoultely, i agree with @Mathieu<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">7.&nbsp; Update on Questionnaire (5 minutes – we will not be going through the JNC submission this week, all submissions can be found
 at&nbsp;<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Jurisdiction&#43;Questionnaire"><span style="color:#3B73AF;text-decoration:none">https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Jurisdiction&#43;Questionnaire</span></a>)</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">7.1.1.&nbsp; Shin Takamura – 4 April</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">7.1.2.&nbsp; Just Net Coalition – 6 April</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">7.1.3.&nbsp; Carlos Vera – 7 april</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Greg Shatan - sub-group on questionnaire will review these before bringing these back.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">8.1. Name.Space, Inc. v. ICANN. – DM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">8.2. Employ Media LLC v ICANN - RBL<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Greg Shatan - would expect comments on list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">9.&nbsp; AOB</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">10.&nbsp; Next meeting 18 April 1900UTC</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">11.&nbsp; Adjourned</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt;background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333">Decisions:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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