<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Greg,</div><div>I am sorry to hear that .</div><div>You did not receive my four mails BECAUSE YIOU RUSHED to take decision within few and only few mints after your enquiry to the mail</div><div>I am not comfortable with the unfair way that to treat this caser.</div><div>NO MEETING TODAY </div><div>today is a National Holiday in this country </div><div>.Please respect other people important days</div><div>Regards</div><div>Kavouss </div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 2:08 AM, Greg Shatan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Kavouss,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I'm sorry that my efforts to determine the sense of the group with regard to rescheduling did not meet with your approval. I can only try my best. For your information, I did not receive any of your four emails objecting to the formulation of the question until after I sent out my agenda email.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Best regards,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr"><div><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Dear Greg,</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">You raised a question
whether there is any significant support to shift back the meeting from Tuesday
to Wednesday as initially scheduled.</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">I asked you after
sufficient justification that your decision to change the date was not correct
but to go forward change the sense of your question to ask</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Is there strong 7
significant OPPOSITION to go back to the initially planned date .i.e. Wednesday
02 August</span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Then then after few mints
without waiting to receive any reaction to the question decide that : </span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">"First,
I confirm that the meeting remains on <b>Tuesday, August 1,</b> as there was no
further support for moving it back to Wednesday, August 2."</span></i></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">You do not
have such a right to impose your views without hearing whether or not the charge
to initial date was opposed.</span></i></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(79,129,189);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">You are very clever but
there are others who are similarly clever like you </span></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;line-height:normal"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">How you can
decide in 3 mints that everything is as you wanted.</span></i></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:red;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">I totally disagree with
you and assume that until you receive serious and strong objection to my
suggestion you are not authorized to maintain the new time.We have not yet decided whether it would wednesday or other day.</span></p><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:red;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Pls do not impose your views </span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><font color="#000000">Regards</font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="background:white;margin:0cm 0cm 6.75pt;line-height:normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><font color="#000000">Kavouss <span></span></font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 12:38 AM, Kavouss Arasteh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">Dear Greg,</font></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">I totally disagree with you in rushing for your own views .</font></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">I suggested that you change the sense of the question as described in the last part of this message.</font></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">Thank you very much for your message.</font></span></div><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">There are incoherence and inconsistencies and lack of
standards or double standards in that message as briefly discussed below</font></span></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri"> </font></span></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri">Your introductory / opening part of the message.</font></span></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(0,112,192);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font face="Calibri">1.“I
would like to see if there is significant support in the Subgroup for moving
this week's call back to Wednesday, August 2 at 13:00 UTC based on the request
from Kavouss Arasteh below”. </font></span></i></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(112,48,160);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font face="Calibri">Reply </font></span></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(112,48,160);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font face="Calibri">This is provocative in the sense
that you know many people do not appreciate active participation of people with
integrity at the meeting and they make every effort to negate and oppose to all
his proposal in a categorical manner . Thus raising such such would turn the
discussion into a total divergence manner </font></span></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(0,112,192);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font face="Calibri">2.”I
note the following (1) if we move the call back to Wednesday, Sam Eisner can't
join us and thus we would not have the OFAC-related discussion planned for this
week,</font></span></i></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(112,48,160);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font face="Calibri">Reply</font></span></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(112,48,160);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font face="Calibri">While we welcome any information
provided by ICANN staff but we should in no way be bow down and be subordinated
or yielded by their wishes. If she is unable to attend, there would be neither
earthquake nor Surname. She will do at the subsequent meeting.</font></span></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(112,48,160);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font face="Calibri">Moreover, what she intends to tell
us we do not know? We do not expect to receive some cut and paste information
from a very substantial well-structured information on OFAC .What we wanted
were the questions that I raised, namely the application and implementation of
certain OFAC terms and provisions to g TLD and cc TLD that was not agreed or
rejected by you.</font></span></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(112,48,160);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font face="Calibri">We do not need partial ,incomplete
information based on one ICANN Staff as we are sufficiently mature to get the
description and functions of OFAC, as I mentioned we need to clearly know <span> </span><span> </span>the application
and implementation of certain OFAC terms and provisions to g TLD and cc TLD that
was not agreed or rejected by you.</font></span></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(0,112,192);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font face="Calibri">3 “ <i>(2) Mr. Arasteh approved the move from Wednesday to Tuesday in an email
on Friday, July 28, and (3) Virgin of Los Angeles Day on August 2 is a national
holiday in Costa Rica, not a regional or urban holiday (the Virgin of Los
Angeles is the patron saint of Costa Rica”</i></font></span></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><u><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(112,48,160);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font face="Calibri">Reply.</font></span></u></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(112,48,160);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font face="Calibri">I have seen the same reply from
another Member of the Group: a well coordinated view ha ha???</font></span></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(112,48,160);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font face="Calibri">Please note that I was referring to
National Holidays of a respectful country from which there are three active participants
at the meeting. I do not understand reference to Los Angles state as I referred
to only to sovereign country and not a State7 County within a country.
Moreover, while I fully respect the national holiday of those countries but
there has been no participants from those countries in our over 30 meeting at
all</font></span></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(0,176,240);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font face="Calibri">4<i>” In the absence of significant support in the Subgroup, we will keep
the call schedule as is”.</i></font></span></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(112,48,160);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font face="Calibri">Reply</font></span></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><font face="Calibri"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(112,48,160);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt">Your statement is inappropriate
because a9 when you moved the meeting from Wednesday to Tuesday (Because of
Mrs. Samantha Eisner????) ,</span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:red;line-height:115%;font-size:16pt">you did not ask
whether there was significant support ????? </span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(112,48,160);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt">Then
why you asking for significant support knowing that several people are against my
intervention because they are against THE SINGER and Not THE SONG.</span></b></font></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><font face="Calibri"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(112,48,160);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt">Then </span></b><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:red;line-height:115%;font-size:16pt">I asked you to shift the sense of the question and ask whether there is
significant opposition to my request. </span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font color="#000000">In addition I do not know out of 25 participant what constitutes</font><span style="color:red"> <b>“Significant*<span> </span></b></span></span></font></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><font face="Calibri"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:red;line-height:115%;font-size:16pt">5. I simply said tomorrow is the National
Holiday of Switzerland and since there are several participants from that
country at the meeting, we need to respect that National Day. If you do not respect
that and compare NATIONAL Day of Switzerland wit</span></b><b><i><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(0,112,192);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"> Virgin of Los Angeles,
I am sorry to say it is a disproportionate comparison</span></i></b></font></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(0,112,192);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font face="Calibri">Once again ,if you want to ask
question about my proposal to go bacjk to the initially planned day and not the
day which just meets one ICANN Staff REQUIREMENT you need <span> </span>to raise the following question </font></span></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(0,112,192);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font face="Calibri">Kavouss Arasteh argued that the
meeting was initially planned for Wednesday 02 Augusts since several day which
people planned their agenda but since one ICANN staff was unable to attend that
meeting on 02 August, the Secretariat and the rapporteur by using default
position change the meeting day which unfortunately fall with Swiss National
Holiday. Kavouss respectfully appealed to all to respect the National Holiday
of Switzerland and go back to the initial meeting day which was planned / schedules
long time ago</font></span></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(0,112,192);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font face="Calibri">Question</font></span></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(0,112,192);line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font face="Calibri">“IS THERE STRONG AND SIGNIFICANT
OPPOSITION TO Kavouss, proposal to revert back to Wednesday 02 August</font></span></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:red;line-height:115%;font-size:16pt"><font face="Calibri">Please weigh in quickly as time is very
tight for such scheduling changes.</font></span></b></p><font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">
</font><span><span><br></span></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_-8788902254180184182m_-6067617835510284340h5">On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 12:25 AM, Greg Shatan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div><div class="m_-8788902254180184182m_-6067617835510284340h5"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">All,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">First, I confirm that the meeting remains on <b>Tuesday, August 1,</b> as there was no further support for moving it back to Wednesday, August 2.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I have attached the following (in Word and PDF):</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">1. Agenda</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">2. Collected questions from the Subgroup for ICANN Legal regarding OFAC and sanctions matters. (These are largely unedited, so there are some ambiguities in some questions and some overlaps between various questions.)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">3. Decisions, Action Items and Requests ("DAIR") from last week's meeting.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Reminder: I have posted some background reading on OFAC that may prove useful.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><b>A note on process: </b>Based on suggestions made last week, for this and future calls:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">a. <b><font color="#ff0000">The call will start on time.</font></b><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">b. Decisions, Action Items and Requests from the prior meeting will not be reviewed on the call. They are attached here and any questions or comments should be raised on the list.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">c. We will get to the major items of substance as quickly as possible, and move process issues to the end of calls (or if need be, the list).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I hope that this will make calls more productive.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I look forward to our call.</div><span class="m_-8788902254180184182m_-6067617835510284340m_-958483043414325224HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></font></span></div>
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